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but lang did not "simplify" his western pond turtle. he had already created the "simple" turtle before he designed his western pond. further, even his "simple" turtle is far, far, far away from pureland.

i mean, come on. there wasn't even a rumor that the sea turtle was simplified. i was the first to mention it, and only then as a hypothetical situation about why people wouldn't buy the book, but the "only-super-complex-origami-is-worth-it fandom" got their panties in such a twist about it that they worried it might be true.

lastly, if it's sea turtle v1.1 with a few changes to make the finishing easier, please feel free to not buy a copy. :roll:
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I am at origamihouse right now sitting next to Kamiya-san looking at the 16th convention book. The diagrams are definitely for a complex sea turtle that looks very similar if not identical to this one.

The question of 'simplification' is misleading. When you use the word 'simplified', people assume that there are essential details missing from the final model, while this does not have to be true. For example, the fairy I diagrammed for Tanteidan16 is definitely a 'simplified' version of the one on my website. However, externally, the two models look exactly the same. All the 'simplification' occurs on the interior of the model making it cleaner and easier to fold. While the model might be 'simplified' by being less complex, it is actually a significantly better model.

'Simplified' does not equal 'worse'. I have talked with Kamiya-san on this point. He does not want to make 'complex' folds. However, the subjects he would like to design are complex, so he has to use complex folding. If there is a simpler way of doing the same thing, he will chose the simpler way. Decreasing complexity often results in increasing efficiency and elegance.
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It is a little more photos http://sousaku.sblo.jp/
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Yay,good to know Kamiya's Sea Turtle diagrams is complex version!
Thank's for clarifying Jason !
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Content updated
http://www.origamihouse.jp/book/origina ... yu_16.html

I love Mad Cow by Fernando Gilgado
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yaroslav--thank you so much for all the updates. glad to see some pics from the convention. i would love to hear about it from anyone who went.

i'm glad kawahata is back designing prehistoric animals, but this is like the fifth pteradon he's published.
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Hmm… I wonder how similar John Montroll's 5 x 5 Chessboard 2 is to mine. I designed one from a 15 x 15 grid, i.e. a scale factor of 3. It was really interesting too. Too bad I lost it.

Some of those things look really interesting. And as long as those pteranodons get better with each new version I'm happy.
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I know full body troper but it is private fold.
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:shock: im definately buying this one
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Japaneses Artists :
Cube Eleph / Kimura Yoshihisa
Pig / Komatsu Hideo
Reindeer / Nakai Tsutomu
Rabbit / Nakagawa Kouji
Squirrel / Hagiwara Gen
Kitten / Katsuta Kyohei
Tushima Cat / Tsuda Yoshio
Deer / Nishikawa Seiji
Rabbit 2 / Komatsu Hideo
Bear / Fukuda Toru
Owl ver.2 / Tsuda Yoshio
Little Bird / Miyajima Noboru
Beetle / Kawamura Miyuki
Lizard / Yamamoto Taiga
Pteranodon / Kawahata Fumiaki
Loggerhead sea turtle / Kamiya Satoshi
Clone Trooper (Helmet) / Morisue Kei
Skull (with 3-D eye sockets) / Hojyo Takashi
Human Figure / Fujikura Atsuo
Hina Doll / Hamada Isamu
Iris / Maekawa Jun
Helicopter / Takei Junji
A turban shell cube / Kawasaki Toshikazu
DUALO / Kawamura Miyuki
Cube / Ogawa Tomo
Ghost Cube Skeleton / Kasumi Seishi

Foreign artists :
The Tiger cub, version2 / Victoria Serova
Malay Tapir / Quentin Trollip
Mad Cow / Fernando Gilgado
Caballo / Nicolas Gajardo Henliquez
Mammoth / Pavel Nikulshin
Chicken / Andrew Neehall
Swan / Hoang Tien Quyet
Wolf Spider / Brian Chan
Alexander Aztec Swallowtail / Michael G. LaFosse
Snail / Nguyen Hung Cuong
Hercules Giant Beetle / Manuel Sirgo
Small Crab / Oh, kyu-Seok
Fantail Goldfish / Ares Alanya
Rose / Marc Kirschenbaum
Wing-heart / Hoang Tien Quyet
Fairy / Jason Ku
TRIPLANO FOKKER DR1 "Red Baron"/Alessandro Beber
5 x 5 Chess Board 1 / John Montroll
5 x 5 Chess Board 2 / John Montroll
Agada / Isa Klein
Chloe's Star / Bill Reyes


THAT'S THE LIST,
i JUST WANT THAT BOOK!
sorry for the caps.
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newbpcpfolder wrote: Caballo / Nicolas Gajardo Henliquez
Nicolás Gajardo Henríquez
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Thanks for correcting!Maybe you should tell that to Nicolas Terry.
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Thanks Yar! Keep posting as you find more pictures. It's nice to see my pieces in the exhibit. There was some really gorgeous stuff on display.
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