origami tanteidan convention book 16

newbpcpfolder · Post by **newbpcpfolder** » August 25th, 2010, 3:27 am

thanks Yar!You made my day!

InsomniacFolder · Post by **InsomniacFolder** » August 26th, 2010, 2:20 pm

Thanks here too.
I got an added bonus, I loved the track that played on that blog; School Food Punishment - "After Laughter"

Yaroslav · Post by **Yaroslav** » August 26th, 2010, 9:22 pm

UPDATED!!!
http://blog.naver.com/jkdksh/110092801974

origamimasterjared · August 26th, 2010, 11:10 pm

Just got my book in the mail. Don't complain. It's amazing. Really amazing. And for you "100+ step only" people, there is a ton of that as well.

NL3181 · Post by **NL3181** » August 27th, 2010, 7:41 am

Kamiya sea turtle in my opnion is complex!
I have got a hard time collapsing the side for the legs and the pleating of the inner side scutes

joshuaorigami · Post by **joshuaorigami** » August 27th, 2010, 12:40 pm

Fukuda Toru's Bear is my best in the book!

pharmjod · Post by **pharmjod** » August 30th, 2010, 9:37 pm

Just got my copy as well. Great compilation this year! I am however somewhat surprised (but not really offended) at the inclusion of a cube modular that results in a "swastika" symbol. I can't wait to fold Gilgado's "Mad Cow!"

andssl · Post by **andssl** » August 30th, 2010, 9:54 pm

What modular is this?

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » August 30th, 2010, 9:55 pm

pharmjod--i had noticed that when the picture index was initially published.

the nazi symbol has the arm facing in the clockwise position. the one in the tanteidan has the arms going counter-clockwise. they have different connotations in asian culture as well as in history. i remember reading somewhere that there was a greater distinction, but can't find it. it's still surprising, as the difference (if there is any) would likely not be known by anyone except history buffs.

ETA: found it. reading more carefully, it seems that many asian cultures found clockwise-counter-clockwise versions of the symbol to be interchangeable. however, for others, the counter-clockwise variant was called a sauvastika.

anderson: it is ogawa tomo's manji cube. google translate unfortunately gives it its more infamous name, as well.

anonymous person · Post by **anonymous person** » August 31st, 2010, 7:40 am

The Nazi symbol is used in Hinduism, but has nothing to do with racism and and was around for hundreds of years before the nazis. Hope this helps.

pharmjod · Post by **pharmjod** » August 31st, 2010, 4:19 pm

I am aware that the swastika symbol predated the Nazis, I did not however notice the subtle difference between the clockwise / counterclockwise orientation (thanks for pointing that out to me

. That distinction alone is worthy of note and does change the perception of the symbol slightly (though as you indicated, probably wouldn't really be appreciated by anyone w/o that knowledge).

As I stated, I'm not offended in anyway, mostly just surprised that a "potentially" offensive (and not just by a small group of crybabies) symbol was included in the publication. Not trying to stir anything up, just making an observation since the origami community tends to come across as often very PC and eager to not offend anyone or any group. Just my $0.02. Its not really a big deal and something that the editors of the JOAS shouldn't worry themselves over one bit. The whole compilation regardless of this model is fantastic.

GJ0KYZ · Post by **GJ0KYZ** » August 31st, 2010, 6:03 pm

anonymous person wrote:The Nazi symbol is used in Hinduism, but has nothing to do with racism and and was around for hundreds of years before the nazis. Hope this helps.

I have no idea how old you are but my mother and her family spent World War II in Nazi-occupied Europe; she may disagree with you on this point. The swastika symbolises only one thing where I live - racial hatred.

anonymous person · Post by **anonymous person** » August 31st, 2010, 8:14 pm

A mirrored swastika has been usede in hinduism for hundreds of years in an entirely racially unoffencive way ( it is not called a swastika in hinduism and has been used since the founding of the hindu faith for protection from evil). The swastika sybol used by the nazi party has a completely different and unrelated meaning. I hope that clears things up.

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » August 31st, 2010, 8:22 pm

GJ0KYZ wrote:The swastika symbolises only one thing where I live - racial hatred.

did you click on the link i provided or look it up on wiki? the swastika was used in asian cultures for centuries before it was adapted by the germans and gained its negative connotations.

pharmjod--while i'm not bothered by it, it is mildly careless on the part of the tanteidan. the sauvistika showed up on some pokemon paraphernalia awhile ago. there was quite a fuss and the products had to be withdrawn. would be a pity if something similar happened here... all the more reason to snatch it up asap

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GJ0KYZ · Post by **GJ0KYZ** » August 31st, 2010, 8:36 pm

I understand what you're saying, it's just that the swastika has lost its original meaning because of its association with the Nazis. Look at it this way: If I take my wooden crucifix off the wall, pour petrol on it and set it alight and, whilst I'm at it, put on a white robe and a pointy white hat, I move from being a Christian to being a racist white supremicist. The crucifix becomes a different symbol in that context. Whatever its origins, the swastika will always evoke images of racism and hatred.