Attempted but not finished

nonkelgans · Post by **nonkelgans** » August 16th, 2007, 8:16 pm

I used to try very hard models and left out the more easy ones untill I realized that they where to hard for me and had to do the more easy ones first to gain experience. some models I tought I couldn't finish a year ago now go smoothly. It's like Kawasaki's Rose, it took me 3 years (not continously of course) to figure it out how to make it. mehhh, maybe I'm just a little bit slow.

BTW, that plane looks like a crashlanded plane, kinda cool.

GreyGeese · Post by **GreyGeese** » August 20th, 2007, 2:13 pm

It is fine when the models in a book gradually increase in difficulty. Lang, however, makes sudden jumps. I successfully folded the eagle in his Complete Origami, but the very next model is a grasshopper that I have attempted repeatedly and never gotten more than halfway through.
Until I complete the grasshopper, I cannot continue in the book (the later ones are even harder.

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JeossMayhem · Post by **JeossMayhem** » August 20th, 2007, 4:34 pm

Hmm, I have a couple unfinished models now. I went to Seattle over the weekend and bought LaFosse's Advanced Origami and I guess I'm a bit disappointed. I looked throught the book before I bought it and got excited but once I started folding them it just wasn't as fun. Maybe I'm not used to making unguided folds or sculpting (I haven't actually tried the models with wet-folding yet). I didn't understand step 15 of the Big Brown Bat (is it supposed to fold itself when it collapses?) and got discouraged and gave up (that hasn't happened in a long time...).
I hope I'm just jumping to conclusions about his book. But good news is the stuff about his papermaking is fascinating.

xaoslord · Post by **xaoslord** » August 20th, 2007, 5:03 pm

LaFosse's diagrams in that book aren't 100% accurate. There are several models that I had to figure out by trial and error. Overall I was pleased with the book, however.

JeossMayhem · Post by **JeossMayhem** » August 20th, 2007, 5:12 pm

Yea, I've run into some errors too. And I'm kind of put off by the fact that there's no clarity between the front and backside of the paper...

moonglow · Post by **moonglow** » August 22nd, 2007, 6:49 am

JeossMayhem wrote:I looked throught the book before I bought it and got excited but once I started folding them it just wasn't as fun. Maybe I'm not used to making unguided folds or sculpting (I haven't actually tried the models with wet-folding yet)

Funny, but I think this is exactly what sets this book apart from all of the others. And wetfolding those models is almost necessary, otherwise they really look nothing like they should. I haven't tried big brown bat yet, I'll try to make one today (thanks for the idea).
As for unfinished models, I did have a lot of those when I started origami (Lang's tarantula and Kamiya's ancient dragon were left unfinished for quite a while), but their number gradually decreased to one. The only one I still haven't got around to finish it is Kamiya's mammoth (I have no idea why - I guess it's more a lack of motivation than skill).

GreyGeese · Post by **GreyGeese** » August 22nd, 2007, 6:49 pm

JeossMayhem wrote:Maybe I'm not used to making unguided folds or sculpting.

Regardless of how nice the results might look, I am just not interested in either sculpting or unguided folds. To me, origami means creasing, and doing so with landmarks..

araknoid · Post by **araknoid** » September 14th, 2007, 8:15 am

the housemaid got me crazy in precreasing.

and diagrams: i just can't get a lot of them.
sometimes a step requires hours to be understood.
cps are much easier!
anyway i have (maybe lost) some unfinished cats, a mantis, an alien...
all from diagrams.
damn i wanted to reverse-engineer that alien!

Galif · Post by **Galif** » September 14th, 2007, 2:04 pm

Kamiya's Kirin is the only model I started but not finished. Maybe becouse the paper was too bad for folding it, in a certain point I couldn't go on and then I got irritated and threw away the whole thing. I never made a second attempt, but I will someday... maybe.

Jonnycakes · Post by **Jonnycakes** » September 14th, 2007, 4:58 pm

I started designing a lion...I added grafts to add paper to the head and also used them for claws on all four legs...I never quite finished it. I was not happy with the head/mane area and the claws, but after seeing the paws on Kamiya's Cerberus I may pick it up again...

Also I designed a CP for Ichigo Kurosaki from the anime Bleach, but I never finished folding it. I folded the base, but I think the paper (butcher paper) is too thick to fold it well. It may be an overworked design too.

origamimasterjared · September 14th, 2007, 9:25 pm

Probably 90% of things I've designed/tried designing falls into this category.

qtrollip · Post by **qtrollip** » September 15th, 2007, 2:48 am

Johnnycakes, it's funny, because those claws on Kamiya's Cerberus has motivated me too to design a "big cat" with claws. Still busy/trying.
Maybe one day I'll finish it, but as Origamimasterjared says, about 90 percent of my stuff that's started is never finished!!

Jonnycakes · Post by **Jonnycakes** » September 15th, 2007, 4:58 am

Ha but most of mine never even makes it past the rough CP phase

I am still learning though...I think I tend to overcomplicate things. It is part of my personality to do that.

Galif · Post by **Galif** » September 15th, 2007, 5:41 am

I wonder if I will have this very same problem when I start creating my own models...

JeossMayhem · Post by **JeossMayhem** » September 15th, 2007, 7:13 am

Galif wrote:I wonder if I will have this very same problem when I start creating my own models...

The same goes for me so I'm betting you will too. Unless you're some kind of origami god (or have very, very low expectations of yourself), you're going to go through the same time-consuming trial-error process required to make something you're satisfied with. I guess it's just that it's really easy to get discouraged.