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Posted: July 14th, 2010, 9:53 pm
by bethnor
euroboy wrote:
but it stated at that japanese site the author is Kamiya :roll:
there's no need to roll your eyeballs at me. i'm only telling you what it says in nicolas terry's twitter. and i'm telling you he's saying there are models from hoyjo and komatsu in there. i'm also telling you that, while he was at ousa, he spoke of a super complex origami book he saw the outline for and was excited about.

and it definitely makes sense that the mouse is komatsu and the violinist is hoyjo's, seeing as how kamiya has not, afaik, designed a model of either.

OTOH, it makes me sad that the styracosaurus is not in there. what a tease.

Posted: July 14th, 2010, 10:19 pm
by euroboy
bethnor wrote:there's no need to roll your eyeballs at me..
Dont get me wrong, i am just curious! rolling my eyes has got nothings to do with you

Models

Posted: July 14th, 2010, 10:31 pm
by andssl
I have talked with Nicolas Terry by e-mail and he has said that the book contains models by Hojyo and Komatsu. He saw the book by himself at OUSA 2010 from the Makoto's hands.

Posted: July 14th, 2010, 10:42 pm
by orislater
so nothing by kamiya then?

Posted: July 14th, 2010, 10:54 pm
by bethnor
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as i said in an earlier post, it appears to, at a bare minimum, have diagrams for his kabuto-mushi and his cocker spaniel in there.

the million dollar question is if the list of diagrams is complete, or if there's more.

Models

Posted: July 14th, 2010, 11:09 pm
by andssl
Theory for the folding
     Thorough explanation Ryujin 3.5

Figure Part Part4 fold
     Mouse
     American cocker spaniel
     Crane
     Violinist
     Beetles

Appendix 3.5 Ryujin crease back cover

Posted: July 15th, 2010, 4:57 am
by Kijjakarn
I think Kamiya should have someone translate the book into a Bilingual book, like his first book, and so that there will be more buyers.

Posted: July 15th, 2010, 2:31 pm
by TERRY Nicolas
Indeed, Makoto Yamaguchi showed me the book at OUSA.
I've seen the complete diagram of
Mouse = By Komatsu Hideo
Violonist = by Hojyo takashi
American cocker spaniel by Kamiya Satoshi
Crane by Kamiya Satoshi
Beetles by Kamiya Satoshi

I don't know if there is more diagrams.
I didn't see articles yet

I'm working of course to propose it throught the shop.

Nicolas

Posted: July 15th, 2010, 5:38 pm
by Ragnorax
Thanks for the info Terry :D thats great news. I just know that if he does make a bilingual version of it, them im buying it =]

Posted: July 15th, 2010, 11:19 pm
by FrumiousBandersnatch
Isn't the Samurai Helmet Beetle already diagrammed? And the cocker spaniel, for that matter?

Posted: July 16th, 2010, 1:01 am
by bethnor
yes. in fairness, i don't think anyone should delude themselves into thinking that any kamiya (or, for that matter, a komatsu) book will be anything more than an anthology of previously published diagrams, with perhaps 2-3 unpublished ones. it's clear at this point that kamiya has as many models diagrammed as he did in his first book, if not more.

that said, being an ex-fiddler myself, the hoyjo violinist makes this book worth the price of admissions.

i also have to say i'm a bit puzzled. makoto yamaguchi is the editor for the book, but isn't he also the curator for gallery origami house (i.e., why isn't the book being published through gallery origami house, though i guess that's neither here nor there)?

Posted: July 16th, 2010, 1:43 am
by andssl
Bethnor, maybe it is easier to publish the book through a publisher that is bigger than Origami House (i.e. money, costs, so on...)

Posted: July 16th, 2010, 2:19 am
by Feroluce
Hang on..So in which book does he show the Phoenix 3.5?

Posted: July 16th, 2010, 2:25 am
by Ragnorax
Feroluce wrote:Hang on..So in which book does he show the Phoenix 3.5?
That model was never published.

This book clearly isnt meant to be works of satoshi kamiya vol. 2, but more of a read and learn, which i think is still pretty cool

Posted: July 16th, 2010, 8:00 am
by Yannick GARDIN
Ragnorax wrote:
This book clearly isnt meant to be works of satoshi kamiya vol. 2, but more of a read and learn, which i think is still pretty cool
As you said before, and I totally agree with you, if the book is traduced, it will be pretty cool. If there's only a japanese version, it loses a major part of interest for people not reading japanese.