Call for Submission of Diagrams and Crease Patterns

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conundrumachinist wrote:Firstly the Christmas books published here get 60 to 80 submissions per year despite the limited circulation.
conundrumachinist wrote: Tanteidan 16 had 47 models and I think only John Montroll and Hoang Tien Quyet submitted more than 1 model which means 45 designers. And these are fairly complex designs.
Impressive! I stand corrected. I haven't added much to my collection in the last decade, and I still judge these things by books like Tanteidan 4 which had a small handful of creators submitting multiple models. I'm still a bit behind the times it appears. I'll have to catch up.
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origami_8 wrote:But for the Christmas book almost every format is accepted including photo diagrams hand drawn scans and so on. For this publications they want high quality diagrams in very limited formats and there are only a bunch of people that work with professional diagramming software.
creasedmagazine wrote:The diagrams and a sample picture of the finished models need to be sent by email. We prefer to have vector illustrations to make it easy to re-diagram but it can be submitted in any of these various formats: Adobe Illustrator, EPS, FreeHand, CorelDraw, Inkscape. Other rasterized or condensed formats like JPG, GIF, TIFF, PNG, BIT and PDF are not really ideal, but do submit it, if it’s the only type you have. Hand drawn or photo diagrams are not preferred, see FAQ’s for more info.
Anna, they will accept anything. Some formats are vastly preferred to others for obvious reasons, but there is nothing in there that says that they will absolutely refuse nice, hand-drawn diagrams.
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It's a very nice website, get over it. If you have a crack computer then so be it; keep your comments to yourself.

I like the idea of this magazine so I think I might just subscribe to it and maybe enter some of my diagrams (albeit sucky diagrams but diagrams no less).

I give praise to all the defenders of this thread saying that Creased magazine is a good idea and I make a 'ch ch ch ch' sound to those who judge it on appearance.

Good luck Creased magazine, you may need it.
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i've revisited the website, it's great, but the sound can't be turned off until you press F11(in chrome at least).
It's great overall, but the high prices--------
and the music needs to be turned off too-they may need to improve it a bit, but it's great overall. now i'm on the supportive side ^_^
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I am disapointed with the people here. I do not understand such rage against a new proposal of origami magazine. Why cannot anyone make money from origami? Is it an original sin or something like that? Are we at middle age? Cannot an artist make money from your art? Does painters or writers have authorization to make money from art only? The misleading point is to think origami as an activity that has to be without charge in its concept. Like others artistic pursuits, there are people that will practice and share origami only and there are people will want money from this. This happens with music, by instance. There are the people that sell their music and there are people that share their music and the music has not ended in reason of business issues.

Do you want do a really good thing? Contribute, share your ideas with editors.
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The prices have decreased.
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And the music seems to have been turned off too.
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our speaker has burst off, it's not working, so I can't tell about it. But the prices do seem to have decreased.
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@tsk: Yeah, maybe the first time I said it, it came out abit too hard, sorry. However, the subsequent 2 times, i did give reasons to back my statements. Tracing paper is too weak. AND criticisms do not discourage one from folding a model. The sole purpose of criticisms is for one to improve. One very good example of how criticism has caused a folder to rapidly improve is with joshuaorigami. He has improved from a messy folder to a master and I feel that he is still rapidly improving in style and skill.

So yeah, fold your new insect and let the whole world see it. Wish you all the best.
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legionzilla wrote: One very good example of how criticism has caused a folder to rapidly improve is with joshuaorigami. He has improved from a messy folder to a master and I feel that he is still rapidly improving in style and skill.
Sorry for the OT, but let's not get carried away just yet, "master" ?!? :roll:
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legionzilla wrote:@tsk: Yeah, maybe the first time I said it, it came out abit too hard, sorry. However, the subsequent 2 times, i did give reasons to back my statements. Tracing paper is too weak. AND criticisms do not discourage one from folding a model. The sole purpose of criticisms is for one to improve. One very good example of how criticism has caused a folder to rapidly improve is with joshuaorigami. He has improved from a messy folder to a master and I feel that he is still rapidly improving in style and skill.

So yeah, fold your new insect and let the whole world see it. Wish you all the best.
ok great, thanks, I am trying to fold my new insect, a dragonfly. At least, we all did not lash out at Josh, did we? We did not shout at him in a fit of anger, did we? You did just quite the opposite.

However, why do you think that Tracing Paper is weak? you think it is too thin and rips easily?no, it doesn't even when you put a lot of strain into it.
Very unlike copy paper.
If you want to know, check out Shuki's or Andrey's photostream. Why are their models so clean? You need to master the art of shaping using Tracing Paper. First, try to understand why I am criticizing YOU.
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Yeah, shuki does magic with tracing paper. But the quality of the tracing paper they use is very good. Artisan tracing paper is strong and much better than the type that i used to use.

Tracing paper is a wonderful paper if the right is used, but it does have its faults. Firstly, aesthetically, it is quite bad. That was why Andrey and Shuki quickly changed their choice of medium as soon as they found better paper. Andrey quickly switched to using hanji and mc tissue while Shuki changed to Nicolas Terry Tissue Foil.

Secondly, tracing paper, for most part is a weak medium. Some members of this forum do use tracing paper (Razzmatazz does), but they do not really think of it as their fave medium. As far as i have heard, Razzmatazz dislikes that medium as it tears easily.

Thirdly, it requires some skill to fold well. Come on, admit it, your folding is not top class. If I folded from tracing paper, the end result would resemble somewhat of a paper snowball. Your folding, though not 'paper snowball', is still very 'tissue foil' esque crumpled, which should not be the case.

If a medium is not suitable for you, you should stop using it! Tracing paper, like tissue foil, is an easy way out. After honing your skills using the medium, stop using it! Look around and I'm sure you would find a medium suitable for you.

And regarding your point of me lashing out at you, that is highly untrue. I absolutely did not lash out at you for being a horrible folder, rather saying your works were rather crumpled as a passing comment, but rather because you said Sok's project was 'the worst ever'. Please read the comment again carefully and get your facts right. And yes, Josh has received worst criticisms before.

Of course, if you choose to be indignant and not accept the advice of various others in the forum and flickr, so be it.
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newbpcpfolder and legionzilla, may I ask you to continue your conversation about this matter through PM, if you still have grudges/comments against/about each other, instead of this topic.
As far as I know, this topic is about Creased Magazine and it's request for diagrams and crease patterns, not about how good someone folds or what paper is the best. In all honesty, reading that stuff is a waste of my time, if I expect to read something regarding the magazine.

That being said I wish the magazine good luck. I have seen that things are done with the criticism that is put here, that is a good thing, though the way the criticism was put initially, was, in all honesty, far from being appropiate.
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This is Sok Song, Creative Director for Creased Inc. and a fellow folder/designer.

Thanks for all of your comments and suggestions about the website. The HTML version is coming soon and it will solve most of the problems discussed. We wanted to launch the website with a bang so we decided on the Flash and it is a tad bit too big for some screens, but having just taught myself flash (three weeks ago), just for this website project, I didn't foresee the size problem, but we have received many positive comments and constructive critiques which we will take in to serious consideration to fix any problems that have come up.

I know that the formal letter we sent out and the snazzy flash website makes it seem we are a big profitable corporation, but we really are just a group of friends in New York who want to put out a publication for folders to spread the joy of origami. The website is just but a fancy shell to distribute information and even though we want it to reflect our principles and missions, without a person to person interaction, some things could get lost in translation.

Magazine publishing is a very risky venture and we are not doing this to make a profit, we just think its a good idea and there hasn't been a publication like this in the States so we've all decided to dig deep in our own pockets and try it out to see if we could make it work. Our numbers and projections tell us, it really is a hopeless venture financially, but we have decided to go ahead anyways to make it work somehow. Mainly because we believe in the folding community to work together and help spread the thing we really love to do.

I've updated the FAQs to address some of the specific issues that were talked about on this forum so please refer to them if you have any more questions or feel free to email me personally.

As for the cost of the magazine, even with the original price (not discounted) the numbers all come out in the red. Printing, distribution, mailing, hosting, marketing, design, paying contributors, and all the other things that go with starting a small run publication in New York City, is extremely costly and according to our accounting friend (a friend who happens to be an accountant) she agrees with some of you that we don’t really have a chance in even getting close to even after many years.

Just because our resources and finances are humble, it doesn't mean we are not serious about bringing you a quality product! We have been talking with many International Origami Communities and creators to help us in this project and for the most part we have had a positive turnout.

I know that in this digital space, things can be kind of informal but our main intention with this publication is that of sharing. I think that folding is meaningless without anyone to share it with. I certainly get the most joy out of origami when I am doing it with my friends and/or teaching someone new to folding.

I lead a free folding group here in New York called OMG NYC (Origami Meetup Group) and we are always looking for new models to share with each other. Its always a rewarding and exciting experience to get a new attendee who has never folded before and after the first meeting they keep coming back for more. This is the spirit we would like to spread with the magazine.

But we know that we can't do it by ourselves. That is why we are reaching out on the forums and by emails to creators and designers so we can work together to spread our passion for folding. We want this magazine to be about you and what you like to fold and design. We have been working hard to figure out the best way to do this, but as I've said before, we do welcome your constructive criticism or any suggestions you may have.

Meanwhile, Thanks so much for all of your help and support! I am excited as well as my dear friends are, who have joined me in this wild adventure, and we will try our best to add to the large pool of origami resources out there with this new magazine!

Foldingly Yours,

Sok Song,
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ps. Joshua, your Ibex is beautiful! thanks so much for submitting it and your support, we will be sending you an email response soon!
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Sok, good luck with your new venture. Margaret has been selling calendars for years, there is obviously a market if you can tap it. Every time anyone tries to do anything new in Origami, those with limited vision say it can't be done. All I ever hear is how it can't be done. Can't just isn't part of the vocabulary of anyone who wants to do anything worthwhile.
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