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kraft paper?

Posted: March 15th, 2010, 8:46 pm
by origamifreak_1.6180339889
hi, i was at the dollar store the other day and saw some packaging paper in a bin labeled kraft paper. since i never actually used kraft paper, i decided to buy some. but when i tried to fold it, it could not hold a crease worth crap, when i was done with the model (i was folding kamiyas cerberus) it was extremely thick and flimsy, it wouldnt hold its shape, and it was extremely rough. i dont know if packaging paper and kraft paper are the same. was what i was folding with really kraft?

Posted: March 15th, 2010, 8:53 pm
by bethnor
i've stated this before, but "kraft" paper is actually a very heterogeneous product. apparently, nicolas terry sold some which was very good, but has since stopped. apparently many folks here have had good results with "duo-finish kraft" that you can purchase off amazon. but in general, there is going to be a little "buyer beware."

Posted: March 16th, 2010, 2:18 am
by Sunburst
Well, you bought it in a «dollar» store after all :lol:. Maybe the quality of that paper isn't as good as kraft found in paper supply stores. Kraft isn't the best origami paper for sure, but I don't think it's nearly as horrible as you make it out to be. It's at the very least better than folding with kami...

Posted: March 16th, 2010, 11:57 am
by TheRealChris
Kraft isn't the best origami paper for sure
I disagree. my kraft paper has around 37g/sqm and is excellent for folding complex models. but its mostly useless for shaping. if you have to proof fold something, kraftpaper is an excellent choice but if you'd like to display something, you should take for instance foiled paper.

Posted: March 16th, 2010, 12:43 pm
by Adam
Kraft paper is generally quite rubbish. It doesn't look good for most models and it's a pain to shape it. I only use Kraft for models that don't accumulate many layers or when I'm practicing a model.

37g/m² kraft can indeed be quite useful, but compared to many other types of paper it just isn't the right paper to use.

Posted: March 16th, 2010, 10:08 pm
by TheRealChris
for a very long period in my folding live, kraftpaper was my first choice... foiled and unfoiled. and I still think its a very good paper for folding :)
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Posted: March 16th, 2010, 10:14 pm
by origamifreak_1.6180339889
okay, if thats kraft paper, then what i have is definately not. where did you buy it? it looks pretty good. and the paper that i baught can hold a cease a little better than a paper towel.

Posted: March 20th, 2010, 9:57 pm
by origamifreak_1.6180339889
i just did a google shopping search for kraft and the thinnest fraft i could find was around 60 gsm. is there anywhere where i can get thinner kraft?

Posted: March 20th, 2010, 10:33 pm
by TheRealChris
since you didn't enter a real location in your profile its pretty hard to give good advice. you could possibly live in texas, prague or tokyo.
I bought my kraftpaper at a wholesale dealer in germany. still got a big role left :)
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maybe you should check wholesale dealers in wherever you live.

Posted: March 20th, 2010, 10:49 pm
by Ragnorax
wow i would love a nice roll of kraft paper that size ^o^

the largest i could find in an art/craft store was about 50cm rolls of cheap kraft paper thats used to lay on tables n such = it didnt seem too foldable

Posted: March 21st, 2010, 9:11 am
by PauliusOrigami
how thin is it, Chris? o.O

Posted: March 21st, 2010, 9:59 am
by origami_8
TheRealChris wrote:my kraft paper has around 37g/sqm

Posted: March 21st, 2010, 10:21 am
by PauliusOrigami
Oh, i haven't read all the posts.

37 gsm and such size kraft is amazingly suitable for Ryu Zin ;o

Anyone knows if this size and gsm Kraft paper is being sold in the e-shops?

Posted: March 22nd, 2010, 2:32 am
by origamifreak_1.6180339889
how do you know i dont live in silent hill? for all you know, pyramid head could be my dad. anyways, i live in rhode island. and i checked everywhere in the state. no kraft anywhere. maybe theres someplace online?

Posted: March 22nd, 2010, 3:54 am
by chesslo
WOW, thats a large roll!!! I wish I had some! :?