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Double Tissue with both sides Mate!

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 4:28 am
by jonsanfig
Hi guys!

I'm a new member, getting started in advance and serious origami, learning about papers and testing them to get used to the ones that i find more usefull.

I found Double Tissue as a GREAT option to work with, thanks to the lovely Sara!... But I have seen everywere that there's an issue with the making of this paper, and it's that not everyone likes the matte-glossy duality that results of the face of the paper facing the glass or plexiglass surface... I think i have found a way to avoid this. (though I have no idea if this is a new discovery at all...)

I had no money to buy a glass, then I improvised with a plastic sheet i bought in hardware store, this plastic is used to cover forniture fabric and dinner table's surfaces, it is similar to shower courtains, but a bit thicker, transparent and very resistent. What I did was, to fix the plastic to my working desk with adhesive tape to flattern and strech the plastic as much as I could, then I proceeded as usual to make the double tissue... To my surprise, when the paper was dry, and I picked it up, the side facing the plastic was absolutely mate, just as the face on top.

This technic needs to be made carefully, paying attention to the adherence of the plastic to the table, so it doesn't move with the brush strokes. I haven't had any troubles with wrinkles and bubbles that i didn't have with a piece of glass I used as a test in my first attempts on doing this paper.

I share this with you guys becouse I think you should really try this, I have made other sheets and I get the same results over and over again. Give it a try if you can find the plastic, and tell me if it worked!

By the way guys, have anyone of you know of this product?: "Heavy Duty Wallpaper Adhesive, Professional Grade Strippable Adhesive For Wallpapers"??? This is the one I'm using now as sizing/gluing agent, the label does not says anything about it's ingredients, eather if it contains Methyl Cellulose, so I called the lab that makes it here in my country, and they said "yes, it has MC"... but to clearify doubds, has any of you have heard or used this?

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 2:48 pm
by gailprentice
Thanks for the new idea!

Sorry that I can't answer your adhesive question.

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 5:35 pm
by oz
Wow, I'm definitely going to have to try out the plastic surface for the full-matte double tissue! Thanks for sharing!!

Welcome to the forum! 8)

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 7:04 pm
by Jonnycakes
Wallpaper pastes use MC or CMC as a main ingredient-I would bet that yours does too :wink:

Also, thanks for sharing! That sounds really useful.

Posted: August 9th, 2010, 8:28 pm
by debugmode
Thanks your sharing mate =D>

As I said...

Posted: August 10th, 2010, 2:37 pm
by jonsanfig
This works with the paste I'm using, which is the one I described earlier... I'm not sure if it works the same with pure MC, That will be tested really soon because I was lucky enough to find MC in a local chemical distributor, which it's called "Methocell"... I'll get 1 kg for about US$12.5 (Of course, that's the exchange result from the dominican peso to US dollars...)... but it is enough to make gallons and gallons of fine MC!

Well, thanks to Jonnycakes for the note... but I think I'll be moving forward with my new-to-come MC product... It seems like this paste is not working so well to me, making double tissue with it is kind of problematic... You see... It comes already mixed, is not powder, so I have some troubles measuring the exact amount of water to thiner the solution, so in many occasions, the layers tend to fall apart when making complicated and tight folds... You will not believe it, but I have not been able to accomplish any model till the end because of the paper... it is either too thick, or is thin enough but rips, or is thin enough but doesn't hold creases and so on and on... That's why I'm so in love with double tissue, It seems to be perfect for almost all models in PRACTICE-MODE... As Lafosse says, museum-like models only can be achieved with fine, custom-made paper... But that seems to be so far away from the present to me that I;m only concerned about practicing, not performing... :?