monthly folding challenge: August 2011

[Black~Terror]

Just curious, does a nymph count as an angel?

Or are they two separate things?

[Axel´s Origami]

Just curious, does a nymph count as an angel?

Or are they two separate things?

I think you can submit any antropomorphic being with wings.

[JumPurge]

Just curious, does a nymph count as an angel?

Or are they two separate things?

I think you can submit any antropomorphic being with wings.

Personally, I'd even include something that invoces a feeling of an angel. An example would be an ophanim. Basically a flaming wheel, two wheels crossing, or a flaming wheel. Angels are also depicted without wings. Not to mention, the cherubs, seraphs, Sephiroth from FF and Yggdrasil/Collet/Kratos from Symphonia (among other video game angels).
Norse mythology has included light elves under influence of christian angels.
So a single word can bring about many things

[polistes]

here jonnycakes

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53503951@N ... otostream/

[Jonnycakes]

Thanks, Polistes!

Just curious, does a nymph count as an angel?

Or are they two separate things?

I think you can submit any antropomorphic being with wings.

Well, I don't know about that. Icarus is not an angel, vampires are not angels, harpies are not angels, Birdman is not an angel...the list goes on. I don't see how a nymph fits into this challenge. Nymphs are nature sprites, not heavenly messengers.

[Black~Terror]

Do animals that have "angel" in their common names count?

ex: Angelfish, sea angel, etc.

[Axel´s Origami]

Do animals that have "angel" in their common names count?

ex: Angelfish, sea angel, etc.

I don't think so. But you could probably submit a fish with wings!

[Argonaut]

Do animals that have "angel" in their common names count?

ex: Angelfish, sea angel, etc.

I don't think so. But you could probably submit a fish with wings!

I don't think a fish with wings is an angel, really. It needs to be at least a humanoid with wings.

[JumPurge]

Well, I don't know about that. Icarus is not an angel, vampires are not angels, harpies are not angels, Birdman is not an angel...the list goes on. I don't see how a nymph fits into this challenge. Nymphs are nature sprites, not heavenly messengers.

It all depends on what you consider heavenly.
I know for a fact that the heaven described in the Torah, Bible, and Koran, are not the sole arbiters of having messages delivered from their paradises.

Argonaut: It only said angel, had nothing to do with "only angels of x definition". By your put on it, Icarus is an angel, but to Jonny he isn't. And we already had a cupid put in here. I doubt his brother would deal kindly to him being considered just a messenger and not a god. Or for that matter, just a person with wings xD

Both: Is Hermes not an angel, based purely on his image alone
http://dailymythogies.wordpress.com/201 ... ald-staff/

What separates insect wings from bird wings?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy#Demoted_angels

Angel is sadly a broad area. I personally say, include it all. I personally would like to see a fish with bird wings. And for that matter, the "Fallen angels" being demons, this is also an angel, just a fallen angel. I think the vast variaty of angels, be them light or dark elves, fallen, demons, uncertain of the gates of heaven or hell, gods, their messengers, or an animal with a name given to them for their appearence, even a person with an angel voice, skin, or face, I think should be included to appeal to the most. And with half a month left, if somebody can pull off the Awesome Buer below, I think it would be worth of inclusion. Now, since angel was before, I think it only fair that it be a bit more detailed than the others who already submitted their entry. Just for fairness, and more of a challange Isn't that what it's all about?

[Argonaut]

Angel is sadly a broad area. I personally say, include it all. I personally would like to see a fish with bird wings.

Angel is a broad area. But a fish with wings? Definitely not an angel. Here's the Oxford Dictionary's definition of angel:

-a spiritual being believed to act as an attendant, agent, or messenger of God, conventionally represented in human form with wings and a long robe:
-an attendant spirit , especially a benevolent one:
-informal a financial backer of an enterprise, typically in the theater.
-in traditional Christian angelology, a being of the lowest order of the celestial hierarchy.

Under this definition, I would say most of what JumPurge says is an an angel except animals, natural or mutated. Also, my cupid design is not of a god, it is of the figure in popular culture we see every valentines day.

[JumPurge]

Angel is sadly a broad area. I personally say, include it all. I personally would like to see a fish with bird wings.

Angel is a broad area. But a fish with wings? Definitely not an angel. Here's the Oxford Dictionary's definition of angel:

-a spiritual being believed to act as an attendant, agent, or messenger of God, conventionally represented in human form with wings and a long robe:
-an attendant spirit , especially a benevolent one:
-informal a financial backer of an enterprise, typically in the theater.
-in traditional Christian angelology, a being of the lowest order of the celestial hierarchy.

Under this definition, I would say most of what JumPurge says is an an angel except animals, natural or mutated. Also, my cupid design is not of a god, it is of the figure in popular culture we see every valentines day.

Definitions may fit one thing, however, that does not suddenly erase the angels life cycle from say falling or rebelling. I can accept animals being excluded. The figure in the commercials is the god Who's also known as Eros.

What about the divine chariot? This is a living wheel, drivin by the cherubs, and a throne. They are considered the lowest of the low. in the higherarchy.
http://theoldenfuture.tumblr.com/post/5 ... -mythology
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A39805941
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... f/f3/1.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/160tq3q.jpg

[Argonaut]

The figure in the commercials is the god Who's also known as Eros.

It's not the same- look at Dinogami's post:

Cupid is the Roman god of erotic love (basically the Roman equivalent of the Greek god Eros), and as such is not an angel (Cupid predates Christianity--in Jewish and early Christian depictions, angels did not have wings, and winged angels were a later creation that happened to catch on). The Western icon of "Cupid" is a small cherub, which I suppose is a type of angel, but traditional Roman depictions of Cupid were as a man that had wings and a bow--that's a normally-proportioned man, not the baby-ish cherub that is, for some reason, the Western icon. So I guess it would depend on whether your model were intended to depict Cupid as originally intended by the Romans (not an angel) or as the western icon that is called, perhaps incorrectly, "Cupid."

[akugami]

i think an angel is a topic being quite clear. instead of this endless arguing on what an angel could be, too, beside a kind of messenger from heaven with a human body and feathered wings, it would be fine to see some more folded designs in here. unfortunately my little angel i've designed for the late master joisel doesn't produce any descendants. otherwise i'd really like to take part in this challenge ...

[Black~Terror]

Entries:

Angel Shark
Designed and Folded by: Me



Reference Here

If, for any reason, only holy messengers count to "angel", then...

Water Angel
Designed and Folded by: Me

[JumPurge]

Due to pagan influence, much of christianity has changed. Christmas, Easter, and angels getting wings. It's not unncommon to have figures in other mythologies that predate it to have wings, so I see no reason why they would be excluded from the angel category from their general figure. Christianity, not only showed signs of being influenced by pagan rituals of the time in Greece, but even old ideas that Jesus himself would free the dead from Hades. It's not just a cut and dry "Tribe here, tribe here, tribe here" with a whole bunch of coincidences.

http://www.photosfan.com/images/crab-wi ... -shell.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIeYPHCJ1B8
In the picture above is a crab with a legend, that souls of dead warriors have imprinted themselves onto the crab. The fishermen of the area throw these back. It is the common scowl of the samurai in many art forms.
In the same as angel images in many animals, would it be wrong to exclude this crab as an origami contender in a samurai challenge? I think that's what I would like to know with animals being excluded. Because I can fully understand excluding them. But I think the crabs here put it to a good example.

Terror: I think your water angel is a much better entry. And it's in no way official this angel animal nonsense xD It's just discussion among contenders. Unless somebody with power in the challenge has some say, I think it only right not to submit animals as of yet, and stick to the current standard, as it would seem.