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Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 2nd, 2012, 5:45 pm
by easysid
Does anyone here has experience making and folding with what Roman Diaz mentions as 'Sirgo Paper' - Single tissue coated with PVA? I'd like to know whether it is good for all origami ( like insects, birds, dragons) and how does it fare in comparison to double tissue + MC . Thanx.
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 6th, 2012, 4:24 am
by Langko
I tried making it once and it was a disaster... The tissue paper got torn up into tons of little pieces. After that, I've never tried making it again
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 6th, 2012, 7:15 pm
by cowburger13
Langko wrote:I tried making it once and it was a disaster... The tissue paper got torn up into tons of little pieces. After that, I've never tried making it again
same XD I wonder what the secret to not tearing the paper once you apply glue is....
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 6th, 2012, 11:07 pm
by Langko
cowburger13 wrote:same XD I wonder what the secret to not tearing the paper once you apply glue is....
I think you may have to dilute the glue with water for it to work better. Mariano Zavala on Flickr uses sirgo paper and I think I recall him saying that he uses 50% water 50% glue.
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 8th, 2012, 9:38 pm
by Raptorex55
While diluting white glue works okay, CMC is far better. Essentially, applying the glue adds sizing to the paper, which is kind of a measure of stiffness. Any local art store will carry bookbinding glue, ask for it in powder form this way you can vary the amount of glue and size in the paper. Check out some CMC posts for more info. Sirgo paper is just double tissue
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 9th, 2012, 5:58 pm
by easysid
Sirgo paper is just double tissue
okay. But double tissue uses MC/CMC, while sirgo paper uses PVA. Although the purpose is to add sizing, i suppose they'd behave differently because PVA when dry does not take moisture like MC.
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 10th, 2012, 10:23 pm
by Raptorex55
White glue is Methyl Cellulose based, with PVA. So it does the same thing.
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 10th, 2012, 10:36 pm
by phillipcurl
I use a lot of this 'sirgo paper' as you call it for my folds. I can post video of me making it if you wish.
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 11th, 2012, 1:04 am
by cowburger13
yes! Please do
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 13th, 2012, 6:00 pm
by easysid
cowburger13 wrote:yes! Please do
+1 for above request. ( This forum should have an upvoting method )
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 13th, 2012, 7:57 pm
by phillipcurl
I'll post the video tomorrow, i'm assuming you guys are aware how to make MC, so i won't include that.
Edit: I'll probably be uploading it later today, or tomorrow. I didn't have time to make the video last night.
Sara has a video with a similar process to mine
here
Re: Sirgo Paper
Posted: November 16th, 2012, 5:22 pm
by cowburger13
Any progress on the video?