Robert J. Lang - Samurai Helmet Beetle (Insects II)

[bethnor]

dude, ive done this model like 5 times, and every time i fold it, there is indeed one odd layer as shown in step 45. the structure shown in 45 is made by sinking and spreading the layers symmetrically, with the exception of the one layer. F--k it, ill fold it again right now, im at work till 11 so ive got nothing but time.

and which step shows you how to do this? i mean, were you trying to make my point for me? it's quite straightforward. IIRC, step 45 is ultimately a continuation of the flap you complete in step 22. if one does what is most intuitive, a simple spread squash, you will not achieve what you see in 45. which brings me back to my original point: you are just going to have to rework the inner layers of the horn to appear as they do in the diagrams before you can proceed, which involves spreading/sinking the layer in a way you are not instructed.

[Sroge4]

I'm having the same problem he had in his original post... I have three flaps in step 32, not four.

[mixmastermarc16]

there is no spread squash in 44 to achieve 45....i digress....i just finished another one...it took about 4 hours, but had no issues with the afformentioned problem.....i guess im just no help at all....good luck.....

[bethnor]

you could have post a picture of step 45 and how you got it to look like that (which was the issue that many posters had). as i said, it is possible to finish the model without doing that step as shown.

[orislater]

hi guys! I folded this a few months ago and i remember that sometime in the diagrams my model had either more or less flaps than in the picture. i thought it was just a mistake in the diagrams so i just kept folding and it worked fine :\ maybe you guys are over complicating things?

[bethnor]

hi guys! I folded this a few months ago and i remember that sometime in the diagrams my model had either more or less flaps than in the picture. i thought it was just a mistake in the diagrams so i just kept folding and it worked fine :\ maybe you guys are over complicating things?

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as i said, it is still possible to continue the model as diagrammed. the internal layers of the horn will not be symmetric, but it is not an end all of it. i have done it both ways.

[orislater]

then whats the problem with just leaving it instead of doing some crazy sh!t rearanging layers inside?

[anonymous person]

In a way I agree with orislater. What is the point when there is no superficial difference?

[redheadorigami]

Agreed 3rd.

[bethnor]

1) many folders are perfectionists/obsessive compulsive by nature, and like to make sure what is at their fingers looks the same as what they see in the diagrams. it can be confusing when you feel like you've otherwise followed the diagrams to the letter and then come up with something different. it is reassuring for some to hear that others have reached the same difficulty.

2) if one has never completed the model before, one cannot "know" in advance that it is possible to do so despite any potential error. especially with lang models, where a lot of (annoying) precreasing is involved, any/all trepidation about continuing is understandable, as you cannot "know" if the error is something that may turn out to be critical, and you may end up throwing away your model (worst possible result).

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

In this particular model, there is a superficial difference. I don't think the horns separate as far if you don't do this step right.

[shangoob]

hello there...
I am having a problem that the main poster had first.
I am having problem finding the missing flap in step 32! I think after going in the diagram again that I missed step 26! i dont really get how step 26 works .
i a am also unsure of step 21-22.
any help would be highly appreciated
here is what i got when i went back to step 26 http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2941 ... 220141.jpg

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

If I can remember, I will try to look at my diagrams tonight and give you some help.

[shangoob]

If I can remember, I will try to look at my diagrams tonight and give you some help.

that would be of great help... thanks alot

[steve196t]

Help me please, I am on 45 as well. I do not understand how to get it symmetrical, because there is another layer between the two. I have tried everything I could to get it like step 45 but it never works.