Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

yalx · Post by **yalx** » October 7th, 2009, 11:17 am

I recommend for dragon - 1x1m, but I fold this from 500x500mm and my conclusion is what bigger size of paper better for details of model

WhisperPuffin · Post by **WhisperPuffin** » October 8th, 2009, 7:12 am

It's probably too thick, at 70gsm.

federicoh · Post by **federicoh** » October 8th, 2009, 4:39 pm

i have already posted some pictures of my finished ancient dragon in this post, i made it with kraft paper, about 1,40mx1,40m... i bought the worst paper you can buy in the market, and though im not the best folder at all, it looks good for me

this model took me like 4 or 5 atempts, to make something nice... it was the 6th model i folded...

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » October 8th, 2009, 6:24 pm

Pictures?

Gratz on folding it

dude22 · Post by **dude22** » October 19th, 2009, 11:43 pm

helliluya wrote:I took some photos of the steps when folding the Ancient Dragon , hope it will be helpful with anyone who needs it

hey guys im folding the dragon for the first time and im stuck on step 66-69. i saw what this fellow member posted (seen above) but i still dont get it. i would greatly value some help right now. thank you

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » October 20th, 2009, 12:41 am

hey guys im folding the dragon for the first time and im stuck on step 66-69. i saw what this fellow member posted (seen above) but i still dont get it. i would greatly value some help right now. thank you

Did you see the pictures on page 10 of this thread? If those didnt help i can post some pictures i took of those steps...

you got step 65 here:

step 66:

step 67 (note the creases)

step 67 coming along... (different view *note creases as well)

step 68 (now press flat)

Let me know if you still need help.

dude22 · Post by **dude22** » October 20th, 2009, 12:55 am

WOW !! Thank you !! yes, (i had seen those pics on pg 10, i didnt understand them because of how small the piece he was working on was.) Thank you for the pictures they are a Load of help.

Edit...
wow my paper just wont fold that way

i think i took on too much of a challenge.

dude22 · Post by **dude22** » October 20th, 2009, 1:59 am

so i took photos of were i am. have i done everything right??

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » October 20th, 2009, 2:42 am

well from your picture i cant see the creases well but i think is how it should be creased. blue = mountain, red = valley
and i drew the same lines on my picture so you can compare.

dude22 · Post by **dude22** » October 20th, 2009, 5:04 am

thanks for the diagrams i can see the similar parts. Was this a hard for you to get on the first time you folded it ?? Now im starting on the other side and working on it...is it this first one correct?? Thanks for your help and patients

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » October 20th, 2009, 8:36 pm

that looks about right. your starting sheet of paper looks to be a little on the small side, so you might have trouble with the finishing and detailing.

Didée · Post by **Didée** » October 20th, 2009, 9:26 pm

It's hard to tell for sure, the pics are a bit small ... but it seems that it's not quite correct. The tip should lie on the center crease, but in dude22's pictures it seems to lie on the lefthand edge of the pleats. Also, the diamond-folded section on the right of the tip, and the connection to same, seems fishy: the folded edge right from the tip should descent downwards and hit the vertical edge, but it seems to ascent and hit the corner ontop of the vertical edge. Which is not correct.

Encouraging words: the maneuver in these steps is one of the most genuine solutions (breaking out of a pleat with minimal transition) that the Ancient Dragon has to offer at all. It's a good lesson.

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » October 20th, 2009, 10:00 pm

you're quite right. apologies.

yes, this part and the pleats to form the claws are the best parts of the model, imho. the rest is a chore.

dude22 · Post by **dude22** » October 21st, 2009, 12:47 am

wow i just found out i messed up in step 50

have to start over

Do you think thats the reason this step isnt working out to well ???

heres what i did..
[img]http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1190/step50.th.jpg[/img]

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » October 21st, 2009, 1:05 am

@dude22 Its ok you're not alone. i made a similar mistake the first time i tried to fold the model.

You couldnt collapse the bird-base in step 83 because a layer would get stuck right? just make sure you follow steps like 50-59 carefully

I actually didnt start over when i made that mistake... i just carefully unfolded what i had already and refolded it, following the steps carefully, but it did compromise the cleanliness of the folding.