Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

Post by **origami_8** » March 24th, 2010, 10:09 pm

Okay, then you are not allowed to ask any questions on this model any more if you are soo good

Maybe you should learn to read diagrams before continuing, watching videos doesn't learn you how to read them.

Shass · Post by **Shass** » March 24th, 2010, 10:43 pm

Well... It's starting over for me... With a new piece of paper = ] I tried to correct my folds so many times that the paper ripped.... xD Oh well...

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » March 24th, 2010, 11:06 pm

but that's the thing. the ancient dragon is NOT the "hardest" origami. it is not even close. the sequence is just exceptionally long winded. the "hardest" part about it is finding a piece of paper large enough and strong enough.

many of robert lang's insects are much, much harder (even experienced folders here have trouble doing the praying mantis from origami insects and their kin without tearing the paper). the ancient dragon has a few open sinks that are hard to do neatly because you can't open up the model, but that's it. it doesn't require any really bizarre unsinks, double-sinks, etc., etc.

don't give up, but if you need photodiagrams for every single step it may be really too hard at this point.

smexhyz · Post by **smexhyz** » March 24th, 2010, 11:23 pm

No i dont... i think ive done somthing worng at 83 and my paper got ripped ATM im at step 116 and still continue but i gotta sleep. And.. I only have trouble with step 83. And bethnor DOohhh.... Who would need a praying mantis

? She is ugly xD and yes.. it's not hard i just say that because i couldn't understand the diagram.

Ben385 · Post by **Ben385** » March 25th, 2010, 9:16 am

Saying that you have been folding for 6 years is irrelevant. You can be naturally good at folding and master the world of origami in a very short time (I believe that Anermak has been folding less than 6 years).

Honestly, most of the time trying to impress us with how long you've been folding is just plain stupid. Try to fold everything else in Satoshi's book, and learn his style of diagramming. Sure it's hard, but even Bahamut is easier (and in my opinion looks nicer than the Ancient Dragon)

smexhyz · Post by **smexhyz** » March 25th, 2010, 4:13 pm

Yes... I can do any fold, im good but AGAIN " I DONT UNDERSTAND THE DIAGRAMS" if i would... it will be finished very easy. Starting 4th dragon. I Kinda understand all.. Today Maybe ill finish it BECAUSEE!!!!!! i know all the diagrams... (well kinda) And Yes 6 years is much... and it is not irrelevant... I couldnt find any origami that i cant make yet... Not as a diagram! And im not giving big ... That was my message like " Nah No way... I dont give up ... Why i should?"

SweetTomato · Post by **SweetTomato** » March 29th, 2010, 10:25 pm

Okay so after I fixed some mistakes due to misunderstanding on the directions, I got up to step 185. When I open the wing, I don't really see anything I can sink to make it look like what it is in step 186. Can anyone post a picture showing how to sink it?

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » March 29th, 2010, 11:23 pm

@SweetTomato

Hope these pictures help. You open sink along the lines indicated. You are going to have to open up the wing to make the sink. It's pretty tricky.

step 185

step 186

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » March 30th, 2010, 5:07 am

having just been through these steps, it's actually much easier to get a neat result to skip 185 and go ahead and spread sink the layer as it appears in step 190.

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » March 30th, 2010, 5:17 am

@bethnor Or its even easier to do it at step 49

no hassle at all =]

origamidude109323 · Post by **origamidude109323** » April 7th, 2010, 12:04 am

what website are you going to to get the instructions for it

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » April 7th, 2010, 5:52 am

No website... they are in the book "Works of Satoshi Kamiya', which you can buy for about 60$ in a few online stores.

origamidude109323 · Post by **origamidude109323** » April 8th, 2010, 12:45 am

RollerCoasterBug · Post by **RollerCoasterBug** » April 10th, 2010, 9:49 pm

Sorry guys, unless you buy a used copy, copies of that book are out of print here in the USA. And it's $65 plus shipping and handeling Ragnorax.

Here, If you need any refrence photo's, I'v at least made this model 8 times, here are some views.

Oh, and the model works really well when using homemade foil paper.

Oh, and when you get really good, you can make them fit into the palm of your hand.

This one was made from a 40 cm x 40 cm square homemade foil.

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Post by **origami_8** » April 10th, 2010, 10:12 pm

You can order new copies of this book all over the world from Origami House, Nicolas Terry's shop, OUSA and several other places and as far as I know it was never in print in the USA.
Origami House lists it for 57 USD including shipping.