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Posted: November 27th, 2008, 9:23 am
by origamimasterjared
One, Brian is almost definitely working on a book. Also, if you haven't seen his diagrams he puts a lot into them, and produces exquisite hand-drawn diagrams.

Two, what Anermak did is no different from any of the other "crease pattern solutions" except better quality. Really, all it is is a step-by-step sequence of solving the CP. Does it make sense that photo-step-folds are okay, but a nice clean diagram isn't? Just because the photos are quicker to make and harder to follow?

I don't think so.

Anermak, continue doing what you do. You are very good at solving crease patterns and at helping others to do the same. It is much appreciated by many. I know I enjoy seeing both your results and progress, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Also, there is no reason for you to remove your personal diagrams of Kamiya, Hojyo, etc's work from your computer. They are yours.

Posted: November 27th, 2008, 5:29 pm
by Joe the white
CP solution step-photos are a gray area themselves. I appreciate them as well, but I don't remember it being discussed before as legal/illegal. They're not exactly diagrams, but they're not just a CP anymore. Anermak's diagram isn't complete, but as seen here many feel its passed a boundary, by being in such a clear and non-photo format maybe? It might seem silly or being nit-picky, but its obviously an important thing among us to preserve a person's rights. In the end (as always), its best just to ask an authority or the person themselves what they want (Brian in this case is fairly easy to contact). If there is an Origami Authors Group to be formed, I'd like to pose this question >:2)~.

shaping the arms?

Posted: November 30th, 2008, 11:51 pm
by hoodsmommy
I'm getting better at this, but I can't figure out how you advanced folders shape the arms so that the ends near the claws are thinner and folded into the ends near the body. Would one of you pls explain? (A picture would be great too). Thanks.

Posted: December 21st, 2008, 2:08 pm
by karan62
stop about copyright problems and start thinking about walle i need help with the body would someone whose folded it tell me! ](*,)

wall-e

Posted: December 22nd, 2008, 11:16 pm
by insaneorigami
grrr, im having some slight trouble with the body, but apart from that its great! I folded it from a sheet of printer paper bonded with foil, as shown earlier, and its pretty cool. As shown in the Brian chan vid, I used tweazers to fold the treads. I'll try to post a pic of it up soon, though.

However, when I want to fold it later from a larger sheet of paper, does any one know of a quick, easy, and accurate way to divide paper into 5'ths?

Posted: December 25th, 2008, 6:34 pm
by karan62
i cant fold it at all all ive got is a spike sticking out of it

Posted: December 26th, 2008, 9:56 pm
by HankSimon
(Would you like to know the time, how to tell time, ... or how to build a watch ? :-)

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Another video: http://www.origamivideo.net/category.as ... &SUB=bases

Article: http://www.fishgoth.com/origami/basics13.html

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- Hank Simon

Posted: December 28th, 2008, 10:37 pm
by Mars
Maybe someone with ORIPA, can post the CP with
the valley and mountain folds. It might clear up some confusion. :wink:

Posted: December 28th, 2008, 11:30 pm
by ahudson
Any idea how long that would take? Drawing a complex CP like that in ORIPA can take hours. And given what I've seen in the CP, it's mostly boxpleating and such anyway, so the crease directions should be pretty obvious.

If you're still having so much trouble with it... maybe you should try a simpler model. There are CPs all over the place, many of them much easier than this one. If you don't have the skill and patience to figure out the crease directions, chances are you won't be able to collapse and finish the model anyway.

Posted: December 28th, 2008, 11:34 pm
by Mars
I thought he deleted those photos though? :?
About ORIPA, I also thought you could run the CP, and you would
automatically get those lines. I guess I was wrong?

Posted: December 28th, 2008, 11:44 pm
by ahudson
yep. you have to draw each line individually, and select which orientation it is. It's even more time-consuming than drawing a regular CP; I'd guess that for a model like this, drawing up a CP in ORIPA would take 1-3 hours, depending on how fast you could draw.

Yes, Anermak has deleted those photos. My mistake... I edited my original post to reflect that.

Posted: December 28th, 2008, 11:52 pm
by Mars
Thanks for explaining that, I had no idea how time consuming it was.

Posted: December 31st, 2008, 4:58 pm
by karan62
hooodmommys alrady done that

Posted: December 31st, 2008, 6:36 pm
by HankSimon
Mars: Karan is correct, referring to the post by hooodmommy on p. 2 of this thread, dated: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:54 pm.

It is a simplified CP with valley and mountain folds, but you can infer to the full CP, after you fudge around with the "simpler" one. Let us know about your progress....

- Hank Simon

Posted: December 31st, 2008, 10:51 pm
by Mars
Oh, I wasn't really thinking about doing the CP (never done a CP).
I was just suggesting that it should be run through ORIPA (the whole CP), so some people wouldn't have so much trouble. I guess the simplified CP
will help a lot people. Have fun with Wall-e! :D