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Help with Sirgo's Parrot

Posted: April 4th, 2006, 6:25 pm
by Alekos
Hi!

I've got some problems understanding what Sirgo does between the 13th and the 14th steps; I've got some idea but I can't do what I suppose he does ... can anybody help me? Thanks to all.

Sorry for my bad English

Posted: April 4th, 2006, 6:27 pm
by Alekos
oh and if anybody can explain me the next step too it will be very nice...thx again!!!!!

Posted: April 4th, 2006, 7:56 pm
by Daydreamer
Are you talking about these diagrams?
http://www.origami-cdo.it/ospiti/pdf/guacamayo.pdf

And if yes, what steps are you refering to since there is no numbering....

Posted: April 4th, 2006, 8:05 pm
by Alekos
yes that's the diagram...when i say 13 14 15 steps i mean 13 14 15 picture...thx again!

Posted: April 4th, 2006, 8:18 pm
by Daydreamer
Hmmm, from picture 13 to 14 it's just two valley folds to the center line. If this doesn't work you might have done something wrong in the previous steps.
Then from 14 to 15 you swing some layers to the left and from 15 to 16 it's another valley fold.

Posted: April 4th, 2006, 8:57 pm
by Alekos
ok understood
thx a lot you're very kind...now i'll try to do by myself....thanks a lot again!

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 1:59 pm
by Alekos
sry another problem...but from the 9th to the 13th pictures is the same fold seen from different views?or not?

thx again

Ale

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 2:06 pm
by Daydreamer
9 to 10 is a reversefold
10 to 11 is another reversefold
12 is the full view of the model after the previous steps (no new folds)
From 12 to 13 you have to repeat the steps 6 to 12 on the right side.

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 2:14 pm
by Alekos
thx again for the helpfulness i'll post here when i'll finish to make it....

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 2:50 pm
by Alekos
i know i'm starting to be unbearable this is the last question promised...in the 8th step exactly what does he do?

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 3:11 pm
by Daydreamer
Don't worry, asking questions and getting help is exactly what this forum is for :)

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In this step you fold the flap in half (arrow 1) while reversefolding the top point down (arrow 2). Hope this picture clarifies the step for you.

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 3:17 pm
by Alekos
so i did it ,but now how can i reverse fold(i know what is a reverse fold but i can't understand how do it in these case)...probably i thanked you 10 times today but i'll do it again:thanks a lot!

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 3:27 pm
by Daydreamer
Are you talking about Step 8 now or about the following steps?
For Step 8 just make sure to make the mountain and valley folds as indicated in the picture I posted. It is maybe not a reverse fold in the traditional sense. Step 8 is something you will find as "fold while incorporating a reverse fold" in several diagrams.

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 3:31 pm
by Alekos
ok i did it but in the next ones you said that there are two reverse fold and i can't understand how do them....

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 5:49 pm
by Daydreamer
I'll explain this for the second reverse fold since the picture is more suitable to show. The first one (step 9) works exactly the same.

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You have to open the model a bit, push in the indicated corner (black push-arrow) and flatten the model along the creases shown.

The next picture shows you the creases how they should be after performing Steps 9 - 11.
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