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Koi folding scales

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 2:31 pm
by letranthedung
Hi,

I am trying to make the koi designed by Robert Lang. Folding that fish without scales is pretty easy, but adding the scales into the CP is not an easy task, so it would be awesome if anyone can help me out of this. I recently found a website that instructs how to fold the scales.

http://s-itoh.hp.infoseek.co.jp/html/folding-scales.htm

As you see, it is written in Japanese. Moreover when using Google to translate them I hardly could do as it tells because it doesn't clarify anything.

Help help help. I like this fishy :P :P :P
Thanks in advance :D :D :D

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 10:15 pm
by origamiphreak
Actually the scales do not look too bad just really time comsuming.

Could you tell me where you got the diagram for the Koi and I ll doo my best and get back to you, I have not folded this yet.

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 10:17 pm
by origamiphreak
opps never mind origami desige secerets. found it! :D

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 10:20 pm
by origami_8
The diagrams are in Robert Lang´s book Origami Design Secrets.

Posted: April 5th, 2006, 10:35 pm
by Alexandre
I think that Grzegorz Bubniak posted a message on the origami mailing list a few weeks ago about how much time/paper he needed to fold the Koi fish ...

Posted: April 6th, 2006, 8:33 am
by thedeadsmellbad
On Greg's website it says he used 1.35 meter square
pretty big paper :)

Posted: April 7th, 2006, 1:25 pm
by letranthedung
ok i know that folding scales of this koi takes much time and it is better use big size paper, but


can anyone show me how to fold the scales

thanks thanks :P :P :P

Posted: April 7th, 2006, 7:20 pm
by rockmanex6
It not diagram, Just partal pattarn for scale koi :(
origami_8 wrote:The diagrams are in Robert Lang´s book Origami Design Secrets.

Posted: April 8th, 2006, 1:26 am
by letranthedung
maybe i should ask Grzegorz Bubniak for a little help

Posted: April 14th, 2006, 5:22 pm
by thedeadsmellbad
more help here in the VOG gallery

Posted: July 21st, 2006, 5:44 pm
by 4sigma
I just sunk several hours into folding one of these. It is very time consuming, but the result is pretty cool.

viewtopic.php?t=1577&start=4

If anyone's still looking for help on the scales, let me know.

Posted: October 21st, 2006, 4:12 pm
by foldemikael
yes I am looking for help with the scales, I can't figure out how to create the pattern to the paper so the scales get small enough, I have the lang book, but how ???

Posted: October 22nd, 2006, 7:16 am
by rockmanex6
yes the pattarn it is a partal :( someone show the method for collapse this pattarn missing areas?
foldemikael wrote:yes I am looking for help with the scales, I can't figure out how to create the pattern to the paper so the scales get small enough, I have the lang book, but how ???

Posted: October 28th, 2006, 4:13 am
by chickenbakeok
i just got the book recently and i was kinda confused too, finally figured it out

heres a quick crease pattern i drew in paint

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/589/ne ... agedf1.png

dotted line is valley and straight is mountain, i did this pretty fast so im not sure if it's right, hope this helps =]

i wont get in trouble for that pattern rite? it's already on the site in the first post...kinda

Posted: November 24th, 2006, 7:53 am
by 4sigma
foldemikael wrote:yes I am looking for help with the scales, I can't figure out how to create the pattern to the paper so the scales get small enough, I have the lang book, but how ???
If you're asking for the size of the pleats, I believe the the valley folds are about 1/7 of the distance from one mountain fold to the next. Technically I think it's supposed to be [4+2sqrt(2)]:1, which is about 6.818:1. 7:1 is probably close enough. Heck, 6:1 is probably close enough too. :D

In all honestly, I used a ruler to measure off where to put the mountain folds, and just eyeballed the valley folds at about 1/7 of the distance in between, since that distance is about 1.5 mm (1/16 inch) on a paper that starts out 45cm (18 in) square.