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Help with Shiva (Robert Lang)

Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 3:14 am
by Lux Aeterna
(as published in "Origami Sourcebook", Jay Ansill)

So I understand how to fold this except for one or two steps. Unfortunately, one of those steps is right at the beginning. Can someone explain what's happening in step 8?

The directions just say "open out and push up paper from the inside", which seems horribly ambiguous. And also, I can't tell if the fold drawn is along an existing crease or is a new fold (in which case reference points are nowhere to be found).

Thanks

Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 3:38 am
by rokonacdc
i am having the same problem but i was afraid that if i asked someone would tell me to try an easier model so yeah i want some help too

Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 3:55 am
by Brimstone
Shiva has the same base as the Praying mantis. You can find the diagrams for the mantis at http://dev.origami.com/images_pdf/mantis.pdf the instructions are a little clearer there. Basically what you have to do is to unfold and refold to obtain something similar as one of the flaps of a bird base. Similar not exactly the same

Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 3:59 am
by Joseph Wu
Don't feel bad about asking about this model. The diagrams in Ansill's book are pretty badly done. (But don't blame Jay...the publisher hired the diagrammer, and didn't hire a proof-reader.)

Posted: July 2nd, 2006, 8:18 pm
by Daydreamer
Here some pictures that will hopefully help for this step.

First you have to open out the layers of the open sink from the previous step a bit to get something like in the next picture.

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Then push up the noted point from underneath.

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Now you have to collapse the structure along the creases shown.
Black creases are existing ones from precreasing, green ones are new.

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Close the layers up.

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In progress...

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Finished.

Hope that helped a bit :-)

Posted: January 28th, 2010, 10:41 am
by leung_wwy
I am having problems getting past step 1 actually.....where exactly is the valley fold to bring down the top corner?

Posted: January 28th, 2010, 10:58 am
by origami_8
Fold the top tip down to the middle, pinch and unfold.

Posted: March 26th, 2010, 3:59 am
by Docphil
Thank you Daydreamer!!! I've been stuck on that step for years.

Posted: March 26th, 2010, 2:00 pm
by Docphil
Any help with step 19? Thanks

Posted: March 27th, 2010, 12:19 am
by Brimstone
Step 19 is a maneuver made in many models. I made a video a while ago (don't remember what model it was for), that shows how to do it:
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