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Robert J. Lang - White-Tailed Deer (CP)

Posted: March 12th, 2009, 2:08 pm
by ftangdude55
I want to make Lang's White-Tailed Deer (CP here), but I can't figure out the reference points. :?
Is there some kind of measuring method that I could use to figure them out?

These are the reference points I want to find (the black dots):

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Posted: March 12th, 2009, 6:31 pm
by origami_8
I fear you will have to use Reference finder to get those.

Posted: March 12th, 2009, 7:43 pm
by barakboom
I thinks this model was made using the "treemaker" program.
that's why it is hard to find the references.
i suggest you print the cp, than fold it, after you will do it with printed cp it would be easier to find ( well, i hope so :P)

i think the grid is something wired like 11.3
but dont count on it, i only spend 1 minute checking that :P
and than i get bored, because its really hard to find this points.

Posted: March 12th, 2009, 7:47 pm
by origamimasterjared
You're gonna have to measure, like with a ruler. And then either convert to your paper size and measure(less accurate) or plug them into Reference Finder. Doesn't look like you'll have to worry about the point at around halfway down the right edge. Looks like you're dealing with the same angle to the left. Anyhow, it should be very similar to Robert's Roosevelt Elk.

Good luck!

Posted: March 12th, 2009, 9:06 pm
by ftangdude55
Ah, well. Measuring it is, then. Unless...
Do you think I might be able to just ask Lang what the co-ordinates are?

Posted: March 12th, 2009, 9:33 pm
by Adam
Maybe it's just me, but it looks like it's divided into thirds diagonally ( if you look at the bottom left and right corner ). Haven't folded this CP, but that may be it. Might be a start, anyway. The rest of the points don't relaly look too obvious ( -huzzah for Treemaker... -).

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 12:28 am
by !tyza!!
how about this.
http://www.langorigami.com/art/mammals/mule_deer_cp.pdf
you can just enter the coordinates, but i'm not sure if they use the same proportions

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 1:03 am
by ftangdude55
Adam wrote:it looks like it's divided into thirds diagonally
I thought that too, but when I folded along the lines, I found out that it isn't.

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 1:22 am
by !tyza!!
ok sorry.

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 1:58 am
by ftangdude55
What are you apologizing for?

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 3:38 am
by Black-Shadow_Hawk
origami_8 wrote:I fear you will have to use Reference finder to get those.
How does one find references on the paper to get them to Reference Finnder? I'm not even sure how to find references period!

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 3:51 am
by Brimstone
Take a ruler and measure the X and Y coordinates. Then divide those by the lenght of the side of the square and you will have your popints to enter into RF.

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 12:43 pm
by ftangdude55
Thank you so much, Brimstone! :D
It makes so much more sense now!

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 2:33 pm
by aces21
If you use firefox, there is an add-on called measureit, available here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/539

If you can view the CP in your browser then just click the measureit Icon, draw a box round the square to get its size, then measure the reference point you want.

Also, reference finder will accept fractions so just enter reference distance/square size

Posted: March 13th, 2009, 8:51 pm
by ftangdude55
aces21 wrote: there is an add-on called measureit
Well, I tried that, and apparently, it doesn't work with PDFs.

So, anyways, I solved the reference point coordinates. They aren't totally exact, but they are close enough. :)

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1: x = 0 y = 0.4881
2: x = .2800 y = .5924
3: x = 0 y = .7867
4: x = .0876 y = 1.000
5: x = .2488 y = 1.000
6: x = .4242 y = 1.000
7: x = .5000 y = .8815
8: x = .5758 y = 1.000
9: x = .7512 y = 1.000
10: x = .9123 y = 1.000
11: x = 1.000 y = .7867
12: x = 1.000 y = .4881
13: x = .7199 y = .5924

So there are the reference points. Just punch them into Reference Finder, and there you go! :)