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No they're not. They're just phawning Phu...Phu Tran's rose is brilliant, but you guys are being a bit hard on Kawasaki.
If you need an origami rose to ask a girl out, you need help.pnpurdue wrote: If I can learn how to make this Phu Tran rose, I will use it to ask this girl out. What a wonderful way of asking a girl out, "hey you want this rose? date me!" hahaha
I understand that you don´t like to draw diagrams on your own. But if you agree and teach your model to other people, why don´t you want someone else drawing diagrams for it? (for sure the person should only be allowed to give them away with your permission) It wouldn´t make so much difference and maybe someone has allready done without your knowledge. (If someone is telling me something very nice, I also draw diagrams of it for my own to be sure remembering all the steps in the future.) It seems as you´ve allready lost controll.hunprat wrote:I don't have diagrams for my rose and I don't want
other people to diagram it. I like to have control over my design.
It is not that I am selfish and don't like to share, I have taught many
people how to make the rose. I also agree to let Micheal Sanders
teach the rose at the New York Convention.
That´s easier said than done. I don´t know anyone who was at the New York Convention and I hardly ever meet other folders. It is very implausible that I will ever meet someone who knows how to fold it.hunprat wrote:For those who want to learn the rose, you will just have to find someone who learn the rose and have them teach it to you.
I'm not sure if I can accept the justification of "Patience is virtue" for this particular rose. I mean, if we all keep saying, "just wait, just wait" then nothing will get done. "Things will happen." What if phu tran never diagrams? Which he already said he will not diagram--possibily everAs for me, I just want to get phu tran to get motivated--to let him know that ppl really love his work and are itching to be able to refold his creation.
Trying to motivate me will not work when I don't have the time to diagram. Crying about there are no diagrams will not get you diagrams. Putting words in my mouth as saying that I will not diagram ever will also not work. I never said that I will not diagram my designs. I only said that it might take years. Origami to me is a hobby and an art that I likeLife is full of disappointments, you just have to learn to live with it.It was a big disappointment for me, and I'm sure many others, when phu replied back
I just don't understand why phu won't let other ppl diagram for him, if he cannot stand diagramming. I even offered. Nobody wants to diagram. I mean really now--it is a pain! So knowing this, I think it's a great honor to have ppl practically begging to diagram for YOU. We love your work! We're willing to sacrifice our time and energy to diagram for you and in return all we're asking is to learn how to fold your rose :-/ Am I crossing any lines by saying that?
Again, you are putting words in my mouth. I never said that I don't like diagramming. I will diagram when I have the time. Since I am planning to diagram my work, I don't want other people to diagram my work. Of course they can make notes or diagrams for themself to use, but I don't want them to share diagrams with others. It is very hard when I don't own a video camera. Also making a complete rose normally take me two hours to do. A video to show you all the steps clearly will take 3 or 4 hours. I am not willing to waste my time for this. You will just have to wait.I feel I need to ask a question: how hard is it to make a video of you making the complete rose (steam and leaves as well) and then sending it to one of us- and we'll diagram for you and then send you back the diagrams to see if you approve and if you don't approve we will do it until you OK the diagrams. What do you have to lose phu? You have everything to gain. You get diagrams so you don't forget later on and also you will be making a big contribution origami as this rose will serve as a motivation for the beginners and to lure ppl in as well.
Right. That's why I listed three more options. Besides, there's two things you can wait for: diagrams, or finding someone who can teach you. Both have different probabilities of happening.pnpurdue wrote:I mean, if we all keep saying, "just wait, just wait" then nothing will get done.
There's only 400+ members on this forum. The number of people attending the OUSA convention alone is roughly of the same order. Remember that the model has only been around for a short time - folding information travels only as fast as conventions happen. E.g. finding someone to teach you the MRC was difficult in 1998-1999. These days, people don't even blink if you offer to teach them the MRC.pnpurdue wrote:I mean even on this forum, we have many origami enthusiasts and how many know how to fold the rose??
Actually, I designed the roses several years ago, when I lived in France. I only begin to share the models with people when I move back here to Los Angeles. Didn't have any other people to do origami with when I was in France.wolf wrote: Remember that the model has only been around for a short time - folding information travels only as fast as conventions happen.
...........awesome!!
