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Postby Gerardo » December 28th, 2015, 5:32 pm

Lately I've been creating some pretty obvious models that it wouldn't surprise me if someone else had created them before. That's why I decided to start a thread where we can show that kind of models and ask others if they had seen them before and, if so, where?

If this topic already existed please point me to the thread so I can delete this one. OK?

This is my latest creation. It's a fortune teller turned into a box. It's a sort of obvious idea so I really wanted to ask you guys if you've seen it before:

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Please let me know as soon as possible. OK guys?

Thanks in advance :).
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby Augustus Agamemnon » December 30th, 2015, 7:02 pm

I think that I saw something similar to your design... Yes, it's got almost the same structure as the star box. The only thing that is different is the shape of the four sides. But I'm not very sure for the base because I can't see it very well in your image.It's possible that I'm wrong. You folded it, so you may know if it's similar. I'm going to make a new design of mine, a dragon that is a mix of the Ancient Dragon and the Platinum Dragon. I'll post a picture of it after I finish it. I don't think that there is any thread like yours, but I may be wrong because I'm new around here.
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby Gerardo » December 30th, 2015, 8:21 pm

Thanks Augusts. Do you mean this model: http://www.origami-instructions.com/ori ... r-box.html ?

Yeah, I use a very different base. I literally took a fortune teller, which is made from a blintz base, flattened the bottom and used the tips in the center to lock the walls together. In the case of the star box, it's folded from a preliminary base.

Hope you fold an awesome dragon :).
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby Gerardo » July 5th, 2016, 1:30 am

I created this very simple flat frame. Since it's so simple, someone else might have already created it. Now, other flat frames that look like this one may exist, but what I wish to know is if another one with the same folding process existed before or not. That's why I'm including its crease pattern.

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Crease pattern:
https://scontent.fgig1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5992B105

When looking at the crease pattern, you might think it's made from a windmill base but it's actually made from two consecutive blintz bases both folded over the same side of the paper. It actually only has valley folds,except for the small rectangles you see in the middle of each edge of the paper in the CP. There you have to untuck paper between the layers of the folded tips.

Please let me know if you already knew this model or not; it's important for me to declare it as my own or not. Know what I mean?

Thank you in advance!
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby Gerardo » April 11th, 2017, 3:52 am

I created this model, it's so simple it probably had already been created.

Here's a picture of the unfolded paper: https://scontent.fgig1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5987BA23

And here's a picture of the fold: https://scontent.fgig1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=595898B5

Do you know if someone else had created it before? If yes, who created it? What is its name? And where is it published or posted?


Thank you in advance.
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby steingar » April 12th, 2017, 6:33 pm

Gerado, I need to tell you a story. When a wee pilot-to-be I invented the paper airplane. Now, obviously it exited before it sprang to life in my hands (I'm not THAT old) but I still invented it. Whatever you invent is yours, whether or not it existed before. It simply doesn't matter. Unless you saw it and came up with a folding sequence yourself, in which case it is still your invention!

So invent away. The world needs more good elegant simple folds. Easy it is to design something user-complex. Harder to make something both simple and elegant.
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby Gerardo » April 12th, 2017, 9:30 pm

Thanks Steingar. WOW... you reinvented the paper airplane when young :D ?!

I see your point and I get it :). It's a purely personal conception what makes me care if someone had created the model before me or not. It's simply important to me.

So if someone has seen before the model I'm asking about, please let me know, OK?
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby steingar » April 13th, 2017, 2:44 pm

First, my story is utterly true. I did indeed invent the paper airplane (or re-invent as you put it. It was a new invention to me). Second, my point is it shouldn't be important to you in any way. If you create a new-to-you fold it is a reflection of YOUR creativity. It really doesn't matter if someone else had the same thought at some point. The creative impulse is still original to you.

I'll go even further. Lots of older very elegant folds have gone out of the world. I routinely teach an old flapping bird from Ligia Montoya. It has an elegant action mechanism unlike any other, is relatively simple and utterly unknown. Were I not teaching it I think it would go out of the world, a real pity.

Elegant folds have a life all their own. Keep up the good work, and don't worry about it.
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby HankSimon » April 13th, 2017, 4:57 pm

You've peaked my curiosity -

I think David Lister wrote some interesting articles about his conversations with Ligia Montoya.

Do you know if the flapping bird is diagrammed in any of the older books, maybe by Harbin or Randlett?
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby steingar » April 13th, 2017, 10:14 pm

In is in a long out of print book by Harbin that I have owned since I was a wee Steinspawn. My own copy is dog-eared and falling apart. Come to CenterFold this summer and I'll teach it to you!
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby HankSimon » April 14th, 2017, 12:51 am

Thanks for the offer, but I think I found it in Origami Secrets. And I think I folded it a few decades ago, possibly while I was folding Patricia Crawford's models ;-)
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby Brimstone » April 16th, 2017, 3:12 am

First, sorry Gerardo for contributing to the hijacking of your thread.

Second:

steingar wrote:... I routinely teach an old flapping bird from Ligia Montoya. It has an elegant action mechanism unlike any other, is relatively simple and utterly unknown
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I've had Harbin's "Secrets of Origami" for years but I've never bothered with this model but since you mentioned it I got curious and today I folded it.

The flapping mechanism is indeed elegant and very different from others. Thanks Steingar for bringing this model up.
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Re: Did this model already exist?

Postby Gerardo » April 17th, 2017, 3:56 pm

Brimstone wrote:First, sorry Gerardo for contributing to the hijacking of your thread.


Yeah :roll:.
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