My first try with Tissue foil

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chesscuber98 wrote: what is the importance of air bubbles.
What do they do?
and what happens if you dont remove them??
i removed most of them but some just keep comming...
any suggestions?
As long as they aren't *large* blisters, which can cause problems when folding because the tissue can tear where it isn't adhered, they aren't important, but cosmetic. Some people like them, some people don't. I'm of the first group so I say leave them be... they add a nice texture. If you don't like them, you can make tissue foil that is practically free of them, but I've never been able to (or really bothered).
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I know how to make TF without any blisters or wrinkles, but it takes a ton of time and is frustrating. The process is demonstrated in Satoshi Kamiya's World of Super Complex Origami.
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Great but do the bubbles spoil the creases??
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if they are big, yes. small, no.
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chesscuber98 wrote:Great but do the bubbles spoil the creases??
Only if they are pretty large because, as I noted above, the tissue separation becomes a problem... less for holding a crease (since the foil does that) than for the aesthetics (and, eventually, the loose tissue can become a problem as you fold more. But we're talking coin-sized bubbles hat cause problems, not the tiny ones.
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i don't even use tf except on rare occasions, like on a model i don't feel like wet folding or spending lots of time shaping. i usually just use double tissue with MC instead of tissue foil, because I get less bubbles and wrinkles. it just takes longer to prepare.
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I finally got proper tissue paper. The problem is its super thin and gets kind of wet when i try to stick it to the foil. Any suggestions?
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If you try two layers on both sides, you'll have to add more glue after the first layer, so that probably won't help much. I'd try to put less glue. If it gets wet, that means the tissue paper is way saturated with glue (overglued!)
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OK thanks for the advice but what do you recommend for coating the glue on the foil? I use a paint brush.
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I use a spray can. It usually gives a uniform layer, but it has it's share of issues associated with it (use in a ventilated place, can become wet as well, sheets will eventually split...) I actually considered eventually switching to a brush, but I'm not sure which glue you should use with it.
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In my country we dont have spray adhesive.
I can only use white glue dissolved in water. So any help with that?
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that is what i used for my first tissue foil! it fell apart as soon as i tried to fold it.
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Hi Cheesecuber,

Where are you located? Can you give a bit of information about what glues are available to you?
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its chesscuber by the way
in my country i basically get white glue
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The problem with white glue would be getting an even layer, which is very important. Also, it dries "stiff" which is going to make the paper hard to work with and both resistant to bending and worse than that prone to cracking -- but I'm sure you've discovered that already.

If that is all you have to work with I'd recommend that you try to find a spray bottle, like the kind used with window cleaner, and empty it out. Then put a VERY thinned mix of the white glue/water in the spray bottle and spray the back of the paper directly (not the foil) and then adhere the foil to the paper and let it dry in the open air, preferably where there is a breeze. I have NO idea what the proper ratio would be but it will likely be somewhere between 1 parts glue to 5-10 parts water (yes, that much). You'll have to do trial and error to find the best ratio.

Additionally, afterward be sure to clean the bottle and sprayer very clean byt spraying a lot of clean water through it. You can do this by removing the sprayer and putting the end into a full bowl of water and squirting over and over for several minutes. Alternatively, you could take just the sprayer portion and place it in a plastic bag tightly closed and possibly put the bag in the refrigerator (though I'm not sure with white glue it would make a difference). Otherwise, the glue will dry in the sprayer and ruin it over and over.

You'd do much better with rubber cement, if you could find that. Best of luck!
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