MC vs tissue foil

[Justinorigami]

The title explains it all. Do you prefer to use Methyl cellulose sized paper/wetfolding, or tissue foil? What do you like about that paper better than the other?
Personally, I'm all aboard the MC train, although I still frequently use tissue foil.

While harder to shape, MC sized paper produces more permanent models, and cleaner folds.
Tissue foil:


MC sized paper:

[Kyle2952]

mc. I've used tissue foil, and models always come out far too wrinkled for my taste.

[Fluffy]

MC sized paper

[Eamon]

It really depends. Sometimes, a layer of foil is nessecary, like when backing a white sheet to a black one. I still however prefer mc, because like justin said, it produces a more permanant model.

[Sunburst]

(Just so there's an advocate for tissue foil)

I'm all in for the foil, mostly for how easier it is to shape (when you're used to it). Also, I beg to differ with MC models being more permanent. Some of my MC models eventually spread out (almost like kami) while my foil models are all still standing strong (am I doing something wrong, or...?)

Justin, I personally think your foil beetle looks better than the MC one.

[Justinorigami]

I forgot to mention that none of those beetles are my folds, sorry. If you shape the model with mc, it shouldn't spread.

[Alexorigami]

I've only used tissue foil once and it was good enough, but not nearly as good as my MC models. But it didn't wrinkle, contrary to what most people say about tissue foil (maybe it was because I used MC'ed rice paper + foil +tissue paper?).
Sunburst, those aren't Justin's models. They are by gj0kyz (the tf one) and by Pere Olivella (from double tissue).
About your MC models spreading, there are 3 possibilities I know of : MC doesn't go well with humidity; you only used MC for treating and not for shaping; or the paper you used isn't suited for MC treating (which is unlikely).
All in all, each has it's own advantages and disadvantages: tissue foil shapes wonderfully, but might wrinkle, is a bit thicker and can spread. MC'ed paper is crisper, thinner but very difficult to shape.

[origami_8]

I like to use both papers depending on what I fold. Since I don't like wetfolding, for models that need inner support I prefer tissue foil. For papers that need a thin crisp paper but are self-supporting I prefer double MC paper.
But there are many cases when I would use neither the one nor the other although I love both, because every Origami model is different and therefore needs its own paper.

[fncll]

Paper treated with MC has more potential to spread than tissue foil which has more potential than straight foil...all for, I think, obvious reasons. But that potential shouldn't actually result in anything. I'd have to think that perhaps your MC is diluted too much??

[Sunburst]

Yeah, I don't really treat models with MC afterwards (takes forever and I don't think I do it right anyways) and I have a hard time with right glue:water ratios for MC (too diluted and it won't keep its shape while too much glue becomes harder to apply and increases paper thickness.)

I never managed to remove wrinkles in double tissue. Tissue foil wrinkles can be removed (with your nails or something) when the initial sheet is glued together. I find that removing wrinkles will prevent sheet separation on the long term for tissue foil. Note: I use spray glue for tissue foil, so I'm not sure if all this applies for white glue.

[origami_8]

Sunburst you should really try making tissue foil with white glue, it is a completely different experience than to fold with the one made from spray glue (and less messy).

[Justinorigami]

I agree with Anna, White glue for tissue foil produces a much nicer result.

[Timoris]

I make my own Tissue Foil using Spray glue.

The only problems I've had with wrinkling is when there is a sudden burst of wind when I place the tissue on the foil.

Other than that, the models are pretty darn solid and if you fold a fresh batch, the glue will continue to harden after the model has been done, giving extra sturdiness.

I'm a clutz at wet folding, either not wet enough or soaked.

[Alejandro77]

I prefer MC sized paper as I fold better with it and it's kind of fun to make. As for tissue foil, I can make it pretty well, but my tissue foil models always come out wrinkled

[Sunburst]

Not sure if this would be the best place to post this, but anyways...

So I've finally made an attempt with white glue for tissue foil, and it came out horribly, with tissue paper not glued to the foil at all. Also, when trying to take out air bubbles, the tissue paper ripped at some places. I'm using typical school white glue with a diluting ratio of 1:1. Actually, I had more glue than water as there was hardly any adherance to the foil with glue at a ratio of 1:1.

Anyone has an idea of what I could be doing wrong? I'd guess between type of glue or water ratio, but I'm not sure.