Joseph Wu's works

Friet · Post by **Friet** » June 9th, 2005, 1:08 am

He probably means that Robert Lang's book can be confusing.

rockmanex6 · Post by **rockmanex6** » June 10th, 2005, 4:54 am

yes this

Kishe · Post by **Kishe** » June 15th, 2005, 10:16 pm

I've been doing origami for nigh... 8 years? Granted, I started on some of the easiest diagrams available. I'd just like to say that even though I consider myself good at being able to understand diagrams and can fold many different higher leveled models, I still don't think that I can design models for myself. I really have no imagination. I can't just sit down and start working on something with a goal in mind, and I certainly can't sit there and just start from a base and start folding hoping to eventually come around to something that looks decent. Origami is one of my hobbies, and the one I have stuck with the longest. I enjoy seeing the surprise on people's faces when they see what you made from a single square sheet of paper.

I guess the skills needed for designing could be learned over a period of time, but for some people it would be almost impossible. I really enjoy your work, Joseph, and I would to be able to create your models to show my friends and family. I know you have a lot of things in your hands, and that you simply don't have time to diagram all of your models, but it goes without saying that many, many people would be very pleased if they could find diagrams to such models as your Grand Dragon. I don't want to be one of those people that ask you to diagram your models because you are being selfish, because I think that these people are being selfish themselves.

I have Origami for the Connoisseur and have completed everything in it. I have a desire to try more complex models, and the only other books that I can find have some of the most simple models. The only place I can find the level of complexity in models is on your site or from what I have seen of various other origamists. I would love to get some of these diagrams, especially of Kamiya's works, but I cannot read Japanese or Chinese. If I had the book, I could follow the pictures and diagrams, but I have no way of acquiring any of these books. I cannot go to conventions and whatnot, seeing how I am only 16 years old, and I cannot understand some of these Japanese/Chinese ordering sites from where I would be able to get these books. I feel this is the plight of many of those people that ask for the diagrams of your models.

Also, designing doesn't work very well for someone afflicted with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

I find myself constantly going back and trying to get everything perfect, and I couldn't design something working like that.

I agree that you have no obligation to draw out your diagrams, and that the people that ask for them shouldn't in the manner that you seem to have so often encountered. But if you could maybe every once in awhile work a little bit on a diagram in some of your free time? You wouldn't have to do it all at once. Of course, I have no experience with diagraming and I don't know if it would be possible to draw one little by little, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyways, I seem to be dragging this out a bit too much, so I will leave you while saying that I enjoy much of your work and hope to see more models in the future!

Joseph Wu · Post by **Joseph Wu** » June 15th, 2005, 10:49 pm

Kishe, it sounds like you're well on your way to having a lot of fun with origami. More power to you!

Here are a few thoughts on what you said:

If you want to design, then you can. It's your choice. I don't think OCD would affect origami design any more than it would affect any other artistic endeavour.
For reading Chinese or Japanese websites, try using an online translator such as babelfish.altavista.com - it's not perfect, but it shouild help you understand what's going on.
Assuming you're in North America, to order anything from Gallery Origami House, send an email to June Sakamoto <foldemaster@aol.com>.
Yes, I often do diagram bit by bit...which is why I have so many models that are only partially diagrammed!

Kishe · Post by **Kishe** » June 15th, 2005, 11:09 pm

Heh, you'd be surprised how much it could affect pretty much anything. I have some drawing potential, but I don't draw alot because what I do try to draw is constantly being erased and redrawn, never to be fully completed. If I for some reason do finish a drawing, all I see are the imperfections and not the piece as a whole. Generally, I would not let people see these drawings because I feel that all they would see are the mistakes. I think that with designing, all I would see are where I messed up or where something should be different. I could try to redo it, but I would just make more mistakes or I'll find that what I changed isn't right either.

I also just found a site where I can order Works of Satoshi Kamiya, but it seems it would take up to 4 weeks to get it.

And I don't know if I could spare US$52.

And about the e-mailing to June Sakamoto, what should I include in the e-mail? Many thanks for your assistance!

cybermystic · Post by **cybermystic** » June 15th, 2005, 11:10 pm

Kishe, many folders diagram only in their native language, but still make the diagrams legible. Anibal Voyer, for instance, makes very clear instructions, but in either Spanish or Italian (I can't read either, and they look alike to me).
I've done the same with a few Asian models; folded just on the strength of the diagrams. I may not always get the desired model, but with a bit of trial and a ton of error, I get something that's at least close.

Kishe · Post by **Kishe** » June 15th, 2005, 11:27 pm

That's what I was trying to say. I guess it didn't come out right.

I'm sure I could get through the instructions, as I have built models with Japanese instructions based on the pictures alone. The trouble I have is actually acquiring the books with the diagrams. Then there are those cases when a particular step needs some describing with words. But I'm not too worried about those. I'm looking into ordering some books from OrigamiHouse right now, though. I hope I can get something through them.

Edit: And now that you mention Anibal Voyer, I have the Pegasus diagram right in front of me! I have been able to complete the Pegasus, and it helped a bit that I was in my 3rd year of spanish at the time I found the diagram!

cybermystic · Post by **cybermystic** » June 16th, 2005, 12:08 am

Try the "Dragon y tres cabezas"
I thought it was difficult, but manageable. On the other hand, it would be nice to know what the instructions actually said.

Friet · Post by **Friet** » June 16th, 2005, 12:14 am

I've tried that one twice. But somehow I always managed to get the layers of the head in the wrong order. (I couldn't pull out the three spikes on each head without stressing the paper. The bottom part of a spike would always be stuck under the layer below it.)

btw. Kishe. If you're thinking about ordering the Kamiya book from origamihouse. I recieved my copy in perfect condition in a bit more then two weeks after I sent the money in an envelope to Japan. And it will keep you busy for months, so it's definately worth the money

Now we'll just have to wait for "The works of Joseph Wu"

rockmanex6 · Post by **rockmanex6** » June 16th, 2005, 1:36 am

Good! what is dragin y tre cabezas
plas how I get this work of Wu book?

cybermystic · Post by **cybermystic** » June 16th, 2005, 2:52 am

Rock, it's a hydra. Basically, a wingless dragon with multiple heads and a tail.

Now, tell me about this Wu book

Kishe · Post by **Kishe** » June 16th, 2005, 4:35 am

And where could I find a diagram of this "dragon y tres cabezas"? It seems intriguing! I would certainly like to try it out!

Edit: Oi, I just found it. I couldn't find anything on it in spanish, but I did a search with the title translated and found it. I'll try it out right now!!

Friet · Post by **Friet** » June 19th, 2005, 12:27 am

Joseph, do you plan to make any diagrams of your banana slug? I think it looks so lifelike! How many sheets of paper did you use?

Joseph Wu · Post by **Joseph Wu** » June 19th, 2005, 12:42 am

One "sheet" of banana paper. (I've actually found paper made of fibres from a banana "tree", but this obviously is something else.

) But this model involves cutting!

(And if you can't figure it out without diagrams, you're not as good a folder as I thought you were!

)

pnpurdue · Post by **pnpurdue** » June 19th, 2005, 1:37 am

How exciting! I'm waiting for "The Works of Joseph Wu" too

I was looking through the dragons. haha wow I want "The Works of Joseph Wu" NOWWW. Please