Paper - Preferred folding material

[angrydemon]

Actually I'm not even sure if I'm using MC, but the package says it's a cellulose and it's used as wallpaper glue. I don't know if it's the paper or the glue, but it just won't soak through, and it has the same consistency you described.

[Jonnycakes]

Perhaps the wallpaper paste that you are using has some other additives that prevent it from soaking through. I personally am using straight MC that I bought from a paper supply store. Maybe your wallpaper paste has MC as well as some agent that prevents it from soaking through paper (I know in paper-making, some people add something to the pulp mixture that makes it more viscous and take longer to soak through the screen).

[pereze]

arnorigami: You are correct. I'm having great difficulty making two colored paper by MCing two sheets of tissue together. The problem isn't necessarily that the tissue paper is so thin that the opposite shows though; it is that the color of the darker paper bleeds through the paper and stains the white side. Is it the magical properties of Origamido paper that allow Lang and Kamiya to create such gorgeous two colored paper that is tissue thin?

[Max]

It does not depend on no magic, its just a question of what tissue paper u use
Some contain staining that bleeds through oder doesn't...

[Suraido]

Being new to hobby I just use copy paper, but once I'm more confident with my folding I would like to use foil,kami etc.

[angrydemon]

I notice that a lot of origami masters use elephant hide for their intermediate models. What exactly is it? Is it made of actual elephant skin? Or did someone ridiculously misname it just to piss of the hippies?

[origami_8]

Zanders "Elefantenhaut" or "Elefant hide" or "Wyndstone Marble" is a very nice patterned paper that works great for wet folding (never tried it myself though). It is a thicker paper that is very easy to get in Europe but now hard to get in the USA because the company who sold it there stopped selling it. The paper isn't made from Elefant hide but looks a bit like it (but only in the right colours).

[Max]

One addition: Elefantenhaut is very strong, and in the wet state very easy to shape.

[bethnor]

Zanders "Elefantenhaut" or "Elefant hide" or "Wyndstone Marble" is a very nice patterned paper that works great for wet folding (never tried it myself though).

it's actually shocking to see how ignorant most american paper stores are about elephant hide (though i guess i'm ignorant for always forgetting its altnernate name)... whenever i went to a paper store and asked if they had any they gave me this bizarre, quizzical look that doesn't go away until i explain that it isn't actually the hide of an elephant...

[angrydemon]

I think people should just learn to pick ONE name and stick with it. Having more than one is just inviting disaster. I personally prefer "wyndstone marble". When you hear it you think about the soothing swirly patterns of marble tiles and cheese cakes. But when you hear the word "elephant hide", you think about poor elephants running away from poachers in the African savanna, only to get shot to death. Then the poacher removes the skins of the dead elephants with a giant bowie knife, only to be dried and sold as...origami paper.

[mastermattdude]

I think people should just learn to pick ONE name and stick with it. Having more than one is just inviting disaster.

Well maybe the lives of some people would be easier if there was only one language in the world... but that would be unrealistic (and slightly socialistic ) .

However, personally I relish how everything in life is not laid out for me, and that each individual can view his world in a unique light. True, once in a while you can get frustrated, but the best part of life is transforming hardships into opportunities. Tolerance for others, rather than self-obsession, is what matters in the end.

And angrydemon, I really like your sense of humor, even if it makes it hard to understand you sometimes.

I leave you all with a quote from the movie Evan Almighty: "If someone prays for patience, you think God gives them patience? Or does he give them the opportunity to be patient? If he prayed for courage, does God give him courage, or does he give him opportunities to be courageous? If someone prayed for the family to be closer, do you think God zaps them with warm fuzzy feelings, or does he give them opportunities to love each other?" ~God

[Jonnycakes]

Great quote-and if I am not mistaken, the paper is called Elephant Hide (Elefantenhaut) in Europe and Wyndstone Marble in the US (although I don't think there is a need since it's so hard to get ahold of).

I also heard that Elephant hide can be good for folding even complex models since the sheets are so big and the paper is so strong.

[floopate]

i tried using canson once to fold some rhino's. it had to be wet folded and stuff. Not to sure about canson being good for complex models because it folded more like clay or thick leather than anything else.

is Elephant hide/wyndstone marble as 'thick' to fold even when wet folding? I think i can find that over here (its hard to find decent paper here in the Phil.)

If you guys wanna see my rhino's its at http://floopate.multiply.com/photos/alb ... ills_Rhino (sorry, i dont know how to put up pics, besides i folded these sometime early this year so its not something new)

[Jonnycakes]

Canson is very thick and good for simple models with only a couple layers (Kawasaki roses, for instance). Elephant hide is not as thick, and I have heard that it can even be suitable for complex models if you use a large sheet and wetfold it.

[floopate]

Canson is very thick and good for simple models with only a couple layers (Kawasaki roses, for instance). Elephant hide is not as thick, and I have heard that it can even be suitable for complex models if you use a large sheet and wetfold it.

Really? sweet! thanks, ill go run off to the bookstore (the only place where you can find paper here) and try to get a hold of some.