New Books by Nicolas TERRY

Post by **origami_8** » January 16th, 2009, 11:52 pm

No, it's far easier than in Passion Origami.

sage_82 · Post by **sage_82** » January 24th, 2009, 10:21 pm

ok I am lost. I did figure out the code in passion origami thanks to the hints on this board.

I have gone through Diaz's book and found nothing the same as passion origami. maybe my eyesight is going on me. The text font is different between the 2 books and maybe it is just harder for me to find the differences in Roman Diaz's book. I did find a few typos in terms of step numbers duplicating, but that was it.

Now I going crazy with Licence to Fold. I have read it cover to cover and still not able to understand any part of this puzzle. from the numbers to the grid.

The only positive experience i have had is with folding from the diagrams! Now why would anyone buy a book just for the diagrams? I want to figure out the CODE!

Great job once again Nicolas with the new book. I look forward to seeing what your next project will be.

Time to go pull my hair out some more trying to find the code in both of these books. When I get frustrated I will just have to fold something I guess.

Post by **origami_8** » January 24th, 2009, 10:33 pm

Well, lets imagine Roman Diaz didn't know there would be a code...

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » February 2nd, 2009, 6:22 am

Has anyone completed Nguyen's eagle using the diagrams in License to Fold? I was wondering if there is a diagramming error. Step 43 has you dividing the flap into three columns between the diagonal and the landmark, and you add one of equal width in step 44. This leaves you with four columns after the diagonal.

However by step 70 there are five columns after the diagonal, and I can't complete the tail as diagrammed with just four.

It seems the correct thing to do is to divide the area between the diagonal landmark on the left in step 43 and the vertical landmark into fourths, and then add a fifth column of equal width.

Also, to clarify for anyone attempting to fold from the diagrams: don't worry about the extra width of paper you see at the bottom from steps 59-119. Don't worry about whether you have it at all or whether it appears as long as it does in the diagram. It becomes irrelevant when you shape the wings (I thought I'd done something wrong and was about to throw the model away!!!).

Thanks to Monsieur Terry for this wonderful book.

NL3181 · Post by **NL3181** » February 2nd, 2009, 11:13 am

I encountered some problems too !

I had problem with completing the tail (diagramming error ???)

M Deutsch · Post by **M Deutsch** » February 3rd, 2009, 6:07 am

bethnor wrote:... Also, to clarify for anyone attempting to fold from the diagrams: don't worry about the extra width of paper you see at the bottom from steps 59-119. Don't worry about whether you have it at all or whether it appears as long as it does in the diagram. It becomes irrelevant when you shape the wings (I thought I'd done something wrong and was about to throw the model away!!!)...

Thank you for this. I was quite worried when i had none of the white side on the bottom of the paper. My Eagle is currently at that step and I was just going to ask for assistance! I'll continue it tomorrow though.

I am wondering about your other mention of the potential tail error. I shall continue with this particular folding though as it has taken quite some time to get to this point. I'm folding if from a piece of Kraft Paper 70cm by 70cm! Which i realize is quite large and i have paid the price with some very time consuming folds. (Yet I believe I have been accurate. Step 59 had me worried though.)

I think my next one will be at the recommended size yet with slightly thinner paper.

I am also very eager to try the gorilla by Quentin. This is an excellent book. Thank you to Mr. Terry for putting it together, and having an excellent shop.

Cheers

TERRY Nicolas · Post by **TERRY Nicolas** » February 4th, 2009, 1:08 am

I remember when I 've drawn the diagram of the eagle, Nguyen and me realised that there was a mistake to obtain the correct tail. Nguyen gave me the correction and I update all the diagrams. Then the folding sequence was tested with success by 5 different guys !

So I'm worry to read that seems there are mistakes still !!
I'm too lasy to fold a new time this eagle ! I will try to recover my notes and check if mistakes.

Waiting for that, if you don't obtain EXACTLY the same flaps (by mistake of diagram or by mistakes of you, it could be a good challenge for you trying to understand the general purpose of the folding sequence then adapt your model to obtain a good result.

I'm checking

Nicolas

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » February 4th, 2009, 3:27 am

TERRY Nicolas wrote: So I'm worry to read that seems there are mistakes still !!
I'm too lasy to fold a new time this eagle ! I will try to recover my notes and check if mistakes.

I am in the process of refolding. I will post if what I believe is the correct solution is indeed correct.

sage_82 · Post by **sage_82** » February 4th, 2009, 5:44 pm

I folded the eagle and didn't see anything wrong with the tail portion of the diagram. I think you have to be careful of how you read the diagram as it can be a bit confusing at times.

I was surprised that the tail was a color change from the rest of the model but really was folding this model to see how the wings were folded as I could never figure out how to do the final shaping the way the original design was.

Definitely some very interesting folding sequences.

Now if only I could figure out the code at the front of the book.....ugh!

aces21 · Post by **aces21** » February 5th, 2009, 10:03 am

bethnor wrote:Step 43 has you dividing the flap into three columns between the diagonal and the landmark, and you add one of equal width in step 44. This leaves you with four columns after the diagonal.

However by step 70 there are five columns after the diagonal, and I can't complete the tail as diagrammed with just four.

It seems the correct thing to do is to divide the area between the diagonal landmark on the left in step 43 and the vertical landmark into fourths, and then add a fifth column of equal width.

I have just finished folding the eagle and I agree, it appears that there is a mistake in the diagramming for the tail. I just added an extra divsion to the tail, but this was clearly wrong as it ended up far too stubby.

Looking at step 70, it is clear that the tail divisions are narrower than the others, so dividing the region between the two landmarks into 4 as described by Bethnor, rather than 3 as shown in the book, appears to be correct.

To be honest though, I think one mistake in a book packed full of complex diagrams is pretty good going. Also, its not the first origami book with a diagramming mistake, and it certainly won't be the last. Its still a fantastic book!

NL3181 · Post by **NL3181** » February 5th, 2009, 4:36 pm

sage_82 wrote:I folded the eagle and didn't see anything wrong with the tail portion of the diagram. I think you have to be careful of how you read the diagram as it can be a bit confusing at times.

Would you mind show me/us how you folded the tail

sage_82 · Post by **sage_82** » February 6th, 2009, 12:46 am

after reviewing the diagram between steps 44-45 and 70 and later I see what you mean by an extra line showing up.

As Mr. Terry mentioned, you should still be able to get the final results by following the steps perhaps with one less pleat for tail feathers if you follow 44-45 and don't add any further creases. or you can add more tail feathers by adding more creases as mentioned by

If you need me to take photo shots of the tail sequence I can try, but no promises. I have yet to take "useful" photos for helping with a folding sequence.

All in all the tail feathers ends up being a number of reverse folds and then fanning the tail out and folding the tips of the tail feathers as you did the wings.

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » February 9th, 2009, 7:39 am

i just finished refolding the eagle. essentially my suggestion was correct.

make a vertical fold as indicated in step #43 at the landmark. divide the area between the landmark noted in the diagram and the diagonal going to the bottom of the model into 4 equal strips. add a 5th strip of equal length. proceed as diagrammed. i would also go ahead and reverse fold the flap at the fifth line from the left and do the squash fold as otherwise indicated in step #198. this will make forming the tail easier.

A random folder · Post by **A random folder** » February 21st, 2009, 6:27 am

Just a small question about book shipment-

I ordered my copy of 'License to Fold' on Jan 27, when can I probably expect it to be in the mailbox when I am in the Los Angeles area?

*Edit* Thanks.

Post by **origami_8** » February 21st, 2009, 6:40 am

I'd say give it two more weeks and if it hasn't arrived until then, try to contact Nicolas Terry to ask if there has been some time delays. On his shop he tells that average shipping times for world wide shipping are between 2-6 weeks and from experience I know that shipping from and to the USA always needs a lot longer than to/from the rest of the world.