Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

jklm · Post by **jklm** » July 17th, 2009, 9:12 pm

federicoh wrote:nice folding... wish i could make it like that!

Just make all creases as accurate as you can... And try to get somewhere a big sheet

And hey, mine's not perfect either...

Like I promised, here's better pictures:

federicoh · Post by **federicoh** » July 17th, 2009, 9:37 pm

i make the folds the better i can, but somehow the paper seems to be a mess... also i cant give it shape, it goes back to its place... maybe it's the paper i use, its really cheap (in dollars its about 0,10 cents per sheet of 2m x 1,5m) and i dont think its used for this origamis... but i cant find here good and big origami paper... i've triyed this model about 6 times!! maybe the key is practice!

takwing · Post by **takwing** » July 18th, 2009, 3:39 pm

jklm wrote:Just make all creases as accurate as you can... And try to get somewhere a big sheet

How did you do the final shaping? 40gms kraft paper is not hard enough to hold the line / shape well. You spray corn-starch to make it hard?

jklm · Post by **jklm** » July 18th, 2009, 5:01 pm

I inserted some wire inside the legs and wings to keep the primary shape. Details are wet folded... It may have been possible without wire, but I didn't have patience (the final shaping already took about 2,5 hours)

And yes, someone might think it's impure to use wire (or even wet folding), but I wanted a display model, and it's enough for me to see I could theoretically do it from one sheet.

topsu · Post by **topsu** » July 18th, 2009, 5:34 pm

Nice pictures! Well folded too.

Oh my, I was browsing your photostream on flickr and noticed that you're from Finland

I didn't know there are ANY folders here!

federicoh · Post by **federicoh** » July 18th, 2009, 9:31 pm

wet folded? you use water or something? that sounds great for modeling XD could someone explain a little more?

jklm · Post by **jklm** » July 18th, 2009, 9:58 pm

federicoh wrote:wet folded? you use water or something? that sounds great for modeling XD could someone explain a little more?

For a starters, read this

I bet there's a thread about wet folding here, but I couldn't find it quickly...

EDIT:
OK, two of them actually:
viewtopic.php?t=3011&highlight=wet+folding
viewtopic.php?t=1196&highlight=wet+folding

also:
http://www.giladorigami.com/Articles_Wetfolding.html

I usually dry fold models, and if it looks like they need some intense shaping in the end, I just dampen the parts needing the shaping (like horns in the case of ancient dragon).

federicoh · Post by **federicoh** » July 19th, 2009, 1:40 am

thanks for the info! ill read and try em

chesslo · Post by **chesslo** » July 20th, 2009, 6:20 am

Very nice fold of the ancient dragon!

topsu · Post by **topsu** » July 20th, 2009, 12:11 pm

Oh, Btw, here's my ancient dragon:

PauliusOrigami · Post by **PauliusOrigami** » July 21st, 2009, 4:50 pm

My ancient dragon. Folded from 28cm paper.
Model is so small and so cute ;D

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauliusorigami/3604962406/

Vash · Post by **Vash** » August 2nd, 2009, 8:23 pm

Can somebody please help me?
When you fold the corner from step 84 will it look like step 72?
Because when i do the open sink fold from step 85 i don`t quite understand what to do with the little triangle.
Thanks

Post by **TheRealChris** » August 2nd, 2009, 9:42 pm

so you don't even read this thread?

Majnert · Post by **Majnert** » August 2nd, 2009, 9:49 pm

As i can remember, yes it will be like in step 72. just sink it, and when you will sink the layer behind, paper besides the layers will be sunked twice, like in circled area in step 86

jklm wrote:Like I promised, here's better pictures:

paper in first pic looks very good. I see that you did the same thing with the leg as I do

in my ancient dragon I shaped the wings in different way, and curved the tail. looks much better now. I hope that my next try will be perfect. I just haven't got any colour and huge paper.

Vash · Post by **Vash** » August 2nd, 2009, 11:30 pm

@TheRealChris, yes i did read the whole thread, i know my question was already answered on the first page, but i still didnt understand these steps, sorry that i rushed on asking questions just after signing up to this forum.

@Majnert, thanks for the info, i will try again later on. And maybe i need to take a closer look at the pics from 'Friet' on the first page.

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