Paper - Preferred folding material

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » November 30th, 2009, 9:07 pm

Wow those sheets look nice and colorful

looks like you got a lot of folding ahead of you

Cant wait to see the models that result from them

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » January 21st, 2010, 8:56 pm

Well im doing some paper shopping since my roll of foil is dwindling, and i have only a few more sheets of Tant left so....

i was wondering about the "tissue-foil" in nicholas terry's shop. Has anyone folded with it? Good/bad?
i also bought some "india" paper from a bookbinding company. comes in sheets of 64x45cm and is 40gsm. So im gonna see how it folds.

Also buying another roll of foil from nicholas terry's shop. Red foil this time =]

Post by **origami_8** » January 21st, 2010, 9:20 pm

The "Tissue Foil" in Nicolas Terry's shop folds very nice. It is very pretty with a paper and a shiny side. The shiny side seems as if a thin metal layer is vaporized to the surface. This layer also gives away colour to the fingers while folding, leaving a waxy feeling. It is no Tissue Foil like we know it with tissue paper and aluminium foil glued together with either spray glue or white glue. While it was thicker than expected (I'd say around 60gsm) it holds its shape very good, even through many layers. The paper is a little bit translucent, I can see my fingers through it. I like it, even though there have been some small inclusions.
Here's a model I folded with it some time ago:

Ragnorax · Post by **Ragnorax** » January 22nd, 2010, 12:11 am

Thanks Anna. I ordered a few sheets from his shop, and that should last me awhile

After seeing the gold "tissue foil" i immediately thought it would be cool to fold satoshi's phoenix out of it, since it doesnt have that shiny glare effect like most foils do, which would make it nice to photograph i think.

The paper wouldnt get too thick for satoshi's phoenix would it?

Post by **origami_8** » January 22nd, 2010, 9:59 am

No, I don't think it is too thick for Satoshi's Phoenix. I've seen people fold it from copy paper and this paper is sure thinner than copy paper.

shortloldude · Post by **shortloldude** » February 1st, 2010, 9:43 pm

I have a question about different types of paper. I use copy paper for the most part, tried to make some of my own tissue foil with some generic tissue paper and foil with spray glue and while it i am able to fold with it, and the result is better than copy paper, it is difficult to fold with. I am looking for paper that I can practice with, but will also have a decent outcome. Is this paper good for my intentions?

http://paperjade.com/product_info.php?c ... cts_id=840

Also, is there a specific type of tissue paper and aluminum foil to buy that is better to fold with than generic tissue paper from a party store and foil from the grocery store?

I mostly fold complex models from insects 1 and 2 or from online, and just got my hands on Works of Satoshi Kamiya and plan to fold some of the models in there. Will the paperjade link have decent results from models like the Ancient Dragon and such?

Post by **origami_8** » February 1st, 2010, 10:29 pm

I don't know about the quality of the paper you linked to, but I would recommend you to take white glue instead of spray glue to make your tissue foil. The Tissue Foil made with white glue is a little bit crisper and feels more like paper. The folding qualities are completely different than those of Tissue Foil made with spray glue.
Sara made a nice video how to do it:
http://www.happyfolding.com/instructions-tissue_foil

My favourite paper is still double MC paper. Here as well Sara has made a video:
[img]http://www.happyfolding.com/instructions-double_tissue[/img]

For precut Origami paper in 35x35cm you could buy this paper:
http://www.origami-shop.com/origami-pap ... 3-707.html

Those foil papers are also pretty good:
http://www.origami-shop.com/papiere-alu ... 7_221.html

About the tissue paper, I found that bleeding tissue is better to work with then non-bleeding.
Take the cheapest Aluminium foil you can find as this is most often the thinnest as well (and you want it thin).

Oh, and read this topic, it contains useful information.

shortloldude · Post by **shortloldude** » February 1st, 2010, 11:27 pm

Thank you very much, I am going to buy a pack of the foil and of the precut squares, as well as get some MC to make double tissue with, since I have a bunch of tissue paper from my failed tissue foil attempts.

FrumiousBandersnatch · February 2nd, 2010, 12:57 am

@shortolddude

The paper you linked to at paperjade is of the variety commonly referred to as "kami". It's a plain, wood pulp based paper that is great for practice, and which can be used to practice fold most models. That being said, those models that tend to get overly thick in places, or have points that get "worn out" over the course of folding will have some problems with this paper. However, from what I've seen on the forum, everything in Works of Satoshi Kamiya can be folded from that size kami paper.

For a nicer finished model, once you have practiced it and feel confident with the folds, you might want to use any of the three colors of Chitose from Paper Jade. I prefer the Red Hot Chitose, and would recommend it for the Ancient Dragon.

shortloldude · Post by **shortloldude** » February 2nd, 2010, 1:06 am

Yes, reading though some posts I saw red hot chitose mentioned, I will definately give it a try. If it works for the dragon, I assume it will work for other complex models, thanks FrumiousBandersnatch. I think I will pick up a pack of that as well as the pack origami_8 mentioned for practicing models, as well as the MC.

FrumiousBandersnatch · February 2nd, 2010, 1:56 am

For the large models, I'd recommend the larger sheets that are 22x32 inches or something...the 6 inch paper is nice too, but not so much for complex models. FYI, that chitose also comes in a nice dark green and a dark blue. Just search for Chitose.

Geirolav · Post by **Geirolav** » February 7th, 2010, 12:48 pm

I only use printer paper or sometimes wrapping paper because in the area I live, no one sells proper origami paper :/ Im gonna order some later or make my own tissue foil if i find a good tutorial

FrumiousBandersnatch · February 7th, 2010, 4:15 pm

Sara Adams made a very nice tutorial. You can find it at http://www.happyfolding.com

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » February 17th, 2010, 5:41 pm

frumious--when you use the chitose paper, do you resize it with MC?

seems almost too flimsy otherwise.

FrumiousBandersnatch · February 17th, 2010, 5:50 pm

Bethnor,

Yeah, the paper comes either unsized or really lightly sized. I found that if you resize it once, it works alright, but needs a bit more wet-shaping at the end. If you size it twice (removing the paper after it dries from the first sizing, and then replacing it to size again, because otherwise this paper will stick to the glass) it works even better, and maintains a crisper feel throughout, with less need to use MC to wet-finish.

What colors did you get?!
(the beetle in my avatar was made with the red)

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