Paper - Preferred folding material

zwy6art · Post by **zwy6art** » February 20th, 2010, 7:51 pm

To make double mc tissue like in Sarah Adams video if I didn't have a flat smooth surface big enough for what I want, could I tack the tissue onto a sliding glass door and perform the operation vertically?

Post by **origami_8** » February 20th, 2010, 8:40 pm

While it would be possible to attach the paper with masking tape, the main problem will be that the wallpaper glue will run down, leading to an uneven distribution on the paper. Furthermore if you use bleeding tissue it could also happen that the colour runs as well. You can try it but I doubt that you will get good results.

zwy6art · Post by **zwy6art** » February 21st, 2010, 12:59 am

I was wondering that too. But every time I make double tissue it doesn't seem to really matter how much glue I put on, the paper sucks up everything and after making smaller batches I store the plexi-glass sideways while the glue dries to save space and haven't notice any differences in glue distribution or having the color all bleed "off" the paper.

Oh and I was planing on dabbing some glue on the window for one point, stretching it all the way over, attaching it the same way and then do a top to bottom, middle to sides mc applying strategy.

I guess that means I'm doing it, if it doesn't work for me then I'll report back. If not that means I'm busy folding stuff. :p

FrumiousBandersnatch · February 22nd, 2010, 2:21 am

@ Bethnor

How did the red hot chitose work out?

popopopop · Post by **popopopop** » March 22nd, 2010, 6:44 am

I skimmed through most of the pages, but couldn't find my answer. I finally got some flowers down, but I'm having a hard time finding paper that's same sided in color. The regular kami paper with the reverse white side are easy to find, but that doesn't look good with the model I'm making (Kawasaki roses).

I've read that "craft" paper can be used (construction paper?), but I'm having a hard time even finding double sided paper online. Is it possible to use spray adhesive and gluing two sheets of kami paper together?

popopopop · Post by **popopopop** » March 22nd, 2010, 6:55 am

Well, after some more searching. I founds some 'tant' paper. I read the topics here on it, but do you experts think it will be suitable for a few kawasaki roses?

Specifically here, might be too thick you think?
http://paperjade.com/product_info.php?products_id=728

Also, I found some 80# printer paper in the colors I want. This may work perfectly?!

Post by **origami_8** » March 22nd, 2010, 9:03 am

It depends on the version of the Kawasaki Rose you want to make, but for the "old" Kawasaki rose heavier paper is better so Tant would be suitable. You can even use light cardstock for the "old" Kawasaki rose.
Here's a picture of the "old" Kawasaki Rose folded from Tant (the stem is made from foil paper):

FrumiousBandersnatch · March 22nd, 2010, 3:56 pm

I've folded the "new" Kawasaki rose from tant several times. It works just fine. The only downside, however, is that the lines of the grid that you form in the beginning show up on the finished product...

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » March 22nd, 2010, 6:21 pm

FrumiousBandersnatch wrote: The only downside, however, is that the lines of the grid that you form in the beginning show up on the finished product...

i don't quite understand... doesn't this happen anyway?

the "new" kawasaki rose does look gorgeous in tant, as it is a model that benefits from having the same color paper on both sides. finding a source of tant in the US is a little tricky, though. the problem with the tant one purchases from paperjade is that, if there is a color you like, you only get one of it in the entire pack.

the best kinds of tant for the roses, IMHO, are the 15 cm "one color" packs that come in yellow, green, red, or blue (with 12 different shades per pack and 48 sheets total, meaning you get 4 of each shade). one can always purchase from nicolas terry, but that gets a little pricey, what with the international shipping.

the paper tree in san francisco carries the red.

i purchased several packs of yellow, blue, and red from kimscrane a few years ago, but they oddly only carry green now (one could always write them and ask).

the japanese paper and origami supplies store carries all four colors, if you are willing to deal with shipping and handling.

fineartsstore seems to carry all four, but i'm a bit confused as to the size. they list 12", but as far as i know, tant is only packaged at 7.5 cm, 15 cm, or 35 cm. the jpg of the packs list 7.5 cm, but the cost of each pack ($15.95) seems a bit steep for either 7.5 cm or 15 cm or even 25 cm.

lastly, if you live in NY, i know that kinokinuya bookstore located on the ave of the americas keeps a healthy supply of all four packs in store.

frumious--i just now noticed your question, lol, sorry. i had actually bought chitose a long time ago from paperjade--but currently resizing is not in my repertoire. i had used it for a "new" kawasaki rose, but without resizing, it almost falls apart if you touch it. without mc, an "old" kawasaki rose is certainly doable, and slightly more stable (though also easily falls apart).

popopopop · Post by **popopopop** » March 23rd, 2010, 12:04 am

Wow, awesome guys, thanks for info. Bethnor, I went for the tant paper you suggested and I just pray I don't screw up. The girl likes purple so I went with 2 packages of blue, but I also got some of those purple copy paper on the way. Thanks guys!

Orimaster · Post by **Orimaster** » March 23rd, 2010, 1:54 pm

I make my paper same.
First I spray a sheet of silk paper with spray glue. Then I roll aluminium foil about that, everything cuts to a square and it is ready to fold.The models looks great.

FrumiousBandersnatch · March 26th, 2010, 2:14 am

@ Bethnor, not as bad as with tant...the lines are very evident...kind of like using parchment. Also...sad to hear about you not being able to resize the chitose...it really works well once you do

phoenyx · Post by **phoenyx** » April 20th, 2010, 4:55 pm

Tortillas? i use a lot of foil and plastics but never, never have i heard of or used a tortilla for any thing but lunch!

Squid · Post by **Squid** » April 29th, 2010, 9:46 am

I like thin paper, I'm thinking of trying news paper just for a try... see what happens. I'm not a huge foil fan... dont know why, just dont like it so much!

gailprentice · Post by **gailprentice** » June 1st, 2010, 12:08 pm

Hi all! Thank you for this thread!! - I am new to the forum and found the info here so helpful. Based on your recommendations, I just placed an order for Tant and Tissue Foil (plus all of the Twirl books) at the Origami-Shop.

I haven't done Origami for several years but have renewed my interest lately - so many new books out (just ordered a bunch from Amazon).

Anyway, I made tissue foil once with Spot Rakusui (green) from Kim's Crane and it was a nice effect for a fish model. I don't fold complex models so rarely used foil. My son used foil a lot for models. When he was around 12 years old, he did a lot of Origami - mostly from Origami to Astonish & Amuse. A lot of those models were best in foil. As for me, I like modulars & kusudamas and used good wrapping paper or Italian "artisan" papers for those.

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