Satoshi Kamiya - Ryu Zin (CP)

chesslo · Post by **chesslo** » March 14th, 2010, 4:07 am

Great stuff again insaneorigami!!!

hey hey hey origamistreetracer

Kijjakarn · Post by **Kijjakarn** » March 14th, 2010, 8:35 am

This means that the more you try, the better the model.
More people are able to fold Ryu Zin these days.

orislater · Post by **orislater** » March 15th, 2010, 12:30 am

how do you guys see the really small details in the cp? like the head neck scale connection and stuff like that? also what is the grid going up for the bottom scales?

orion119net · Post by **orion119net** » March 15th, 2010, 1:23 am

1 unit, then 3 for scales, then 1 for stomach, then 3 more for scales.

Same on the top, except for 2 units on top instead of just 1.

orislater · Post by **orislater** » March 15th, 2010, 3:27 am

are you sure their isn't 2 for stomach?

PauliusOrigami · Post by **PauliusOrigami** » March 15th, 2010, 6:40 am

he's talking about 2.1 ver. In 3.5 the top is identical to the botom. Look at the CP of 2.1 and you'll see the graft of 2 units on the most top, when there is 1 unit graft at the botom.

orion119net · Post by **orion119net** » March 15th, 2010, 6:42 pm

yup sorry, that's for 2.1. I don't have the CP for 3.5 right now.

And yes, I'm sure it's just one unit for the stomach

Trouble · Post by **Trouble** » March 15th, 2010, 10:56 pm

so what are the divisions for 3.5

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » March 16th, 2010, 5:10 pm

for 3.5, the grid is 1.5 units... the belly consists of one unit.

So, total, the scale graft is: 4.5 units for each half of the scale, one and a half units for the dorsal spines.

Trouble: the 3.5 grid is 96/96, and the 2.1 is 80/80.
The outermost crease on 3.5 is a valley, whereas on most models, the outermost crease is a mountain.

To find the more... compact? Creases on a model (especially the neck) look at a larger cp of that particular area. Example, Kamiya released a CP of just the head and neck that you should use for it. For the scale on leg pleats to mountain valley pleats (anyone who has folded 3.5 should know what I am talking about.. ...the area above the leg scales that looks very complex), I find that it is better to just do your own thing than to follow a CP that most likely has errors... A bit of advice, though.... One of the transitions for a single pleat looks like a diamond, whereas you can knock out two with a single unit by using the units found in the bottom left/right/ units of the first scales/pleats transition. The last pleat is trickiest, so I will not attempt to make another poor explanation of that area.

Hope that helped someone :/

PauliusOrigami · Post by **PauliusOrigami** » March 16th, 2010, 6:19 pm

I finished!! I'll upload photos soon.

Edited:
here is fist photo. the model is not shaped to the end (i mean curving) so i had to hold it in my hands to look S shaped. Later i'll take closer photos!
well, what can i say, as for 1st try i am satisfied how it looks, without doing test folds for head and legs..

the details can be barely seen here, however....
use this link to see langer image - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauliusori ... 0/sizes/o/

Trouble · Post by **Trouble** » March 16th, 2010, 8:09 pm

insaneorigami wrote:for 3.5, the grid is 1.5 units... the belly consists of one unit.

So, total, the scale graft is: 4.5 units for each half of the scale, one and a half units for the dorsal spines.

Trouble: the 3.5 grid is 96/96, and the 2.1 is 80/80.
The outermost crease on 3.5 is a valley, whereas on most models, the outermost crease is a mountain.

To find the more... compact? Creases on a model (especially the neck) look at a larger cp of that particular area. Example, Kamiya released a CP of just the head and neck that you should use for it. For the scale on leg pleats to mountain valley pleats (anyone who has folded 3.5 should know what I am talking about.. ...the area above the leg scales that looks very complex), I find that it is better to just do your own thing than to follow a CP that most likely has errors... A bit of advice, though.... One of the transitions for a single pleat looks like a diamond, whereas you can knock out two with a single unit by using the units found in the bottom left/right/ units of the first scales/pleats transition. The last pleat is trickiest, so I will not attempt to make another poor explanation of that area.

Hope that helped someone :/

thanks by the way congratulations on finishing it PauliusOrigami

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » March 16th, 2010, 11:40 pm

Very nice, paulius!! I can not wait to see it fully shaped!!

The head looks very well -shaped. I have re-shaped mine, but can not photograph it until Monday or so

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EDIT: After seeing it on the large size, I suggest that, in your further shaping, you curve the leg, and the toes of one of the fore-legs, so that it is elevated. I have noticed that Kamiya always did that, and I find that it looks very nice

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PauliusOrigami · Post by **PauliusOrigami** » March 17th, 2010, 9:52 am

Here are more photos!

orislater · Post by **orislater** » March 17th, 2010, 10:20 pm

wow! thats right up there with artur's

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » March 18th, 2010, 4:44 pm

Excellent, Paulius!! You finally finished!! The head looks great, as well!

Did you do squash folds for the eyes? It looks very nice

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The legs also look terrific!!