origami tanteidan convention book 16

[Trouble]

I will not buy the convention book if Kamiya model is not in it ! This is just me

yeah i just really want to fold his tree frog

[euroboy]

@legionzilla,
Still not good enuff for me!!!

[bethnor]

i'm probably gonna get in trouble with a moderator here, but i have to say that stance is very sad, and troubling. i.e., only a kamiya model is worth folding, and hence anything not in his style is not worth supporting.

there are so many great artists in origami that haven't even gotten one model published in the tanteidan, that stance is such a shame.

i would gladly trade a kamiya model for another seth friedman diagram (to my knowledge, he has only diagrammed two of his gorgeous bird designs, his cooper's hawk and his mockingbird).

there, i said it.

[origami_8]

Diagrams for his pigeon would be awesome!

I found the 15th convention book one of the best so far, maybe only beaten by number 6. I'm looking forward to the 16th edition. Like every compilation book it will have better and less good models.

[Trouble]

i'm probably gonna get in trouble with a moderator here, but i have to say that stance is very sad, and troubling. i.e., only a kamiya model is worth folding, and hence anything not in his style is not worth supporting.

there are so many great artists in origami that haven't even gotten one model published in the tanteidan, that stance is such a shame.

i would gladly trade a kamiya model for another seth friedman diagram (to my knowledge, he has only diagrammed two of his gorgeous bird designs, his cooper's hawk and his mockingbird).

there, i said it.

its not that i think that only kamiya models are worth folding its just that i behleive that his tree frog would be an awsome model for this book and i really want to fold that one

[origamimasterjared]

That deer is awesome.

I know of a few really neat things that are probably gonna be in this Tanteidan. As always it's gonna be worth the cost. Granted, I've folded some of them before, so they're not new to me. But they're still great.

Anyhow, I like surprises…I wonder what else there will be…

[bethnor]

the fact is, everyone has a "favorite model" that they would like diagrammed in the tanteidan.

for instance, from where i stand, there are already many many fine tree frogs--including robert lang's. my favorite is probably by and large nicolas gajardo's (which, IMHO, is BETTER than kamiya's--not that kamiya's isn't great, but he is not the beginning or end of origami!).



i'm sorry, i just find the notion that, say if they decide to give diagrams for gajardo's tree frog instead of kamiya's, the book is somehow less worth buying. that's just plain ridiculous. kamiya has a whole book out. he publishes regularly in the JOAS, and has had a model in every convention book, AFAIK. it SHOULD be okay if someone like gajardo (or any other artist who doesn't have a whole book out) is given some pages, assuming he wants some!

there are so many tree frogs in origami now i would like to see some more dinosaurs, which by and large have passed by the wayside in terms of design. but if there aren't more dinosaurs in this edition, i don't think that diminishes its artistic appeal and i'm still getting it.

again, if you don't get one, the only one losing out is you.

[BluePaper]

I find it funny how people are already saying they won't buy the book for one reason or another before they even know whats in it. or even based on whats on the cover lol

Personally I think the deer looks great, especially considering how simple the CP appears to be.

[origamimasterjared]

Bethnor, Nicolás has had something in the last two Tanteidan collections as well. Most likely he will again this year. I'd say about 99% chance.

It might seem a bit disappointing if they were to publish diagrams for both Kamiya's and Nicolás's tree frogs in the same book, as they are really similar. They won't though.

And again that deer looks really great. I hope they publish my submission so I don't have to wait extra long because I need to place an order.

Also, this is for you Bethnor

[InsomniacFolder]

That deer is awesome.

That's what I thought when I first saw it.

I sense an increasing general propensity in origami fanboy/girl-dom towards the dismissal of anything that is not supra-complex.

From what I can ascertain Tanteidan & JOAS care about more than just complexity or new mathematical approaches - they encompass a nurturing attitude to the whole of the craft.

I say "from what I can ascertain" as I have never seen the contents of a magazine or convention book - I can't afford them. Most of what I understand of the organisation comes through the very imperfect vehicle of google and other translations of their, and the members websites. (Random Tangent: For example - Maekawa-San's blog seems to suggest that he is a keener walker than origamist)

Even though it is unlikely in the foreseeable future that I will be in a position to purchase their products, still, I'm very glad they're there and that they continue to do so much to popularise origami and share their knowledge and labours.

Without them, and all of those like them, ordinary little folders like myself would have nothing to fold, no hobby to thrill them: the designers, the publishers, the proofreaders, the theoreticians and the rest - Thank you!

Whatever they choose to share, publish, teach; however they choose to do so - and whatever they want to put on & in their publications, I'm lucky that they still bother at all.

Sorry to wander off topic - please delete this post if it offends.

[pharmjod]

It is indeed interesting the criteria that people use to determine whether or not they should purchase the Tanteidan convention books. Personally for me, they all have had something of value in them and are well worth owning if you enjoy origami. Don't make the mistake of waiting to purchase one if you can now because they only get more expensive when they go out of print. The only question in my mind is ever can I afford it and do I have space for it I'm still looking for Volume 1 and 2 btw if anyone on here has a copy they would like to part with...

[飛竜]

I will also wait to see the model list because for the 15th vol
i really was dissapointed with the models
especially the reason i bought it cerberus because it was simplified.

out of curiosity, were you also unhappy that the ancient dragon was simplified?

Well for ancient dragon I was not dissapointed because at least he gave pointers on how to proceed with the pleats ( I still have to take a picture of the one I did with pleats )

For complex models he can at least do progressive CP´s or partial solutions to more complex versions.
I must restate that I do enjoy vol 15 of tanteidan but was incredibly dissapointed when i saw that cerberus was simplified (mainly because thats why i spent 60 dlls for the book). vol 15 includes great models from japanese and foreign folders.

as for vol 16 now i dont know what to expect from kamiya i recently looked at his website and both his frog and locust are marked as diagrammed. everything aside from kamiya will be awesome just for the reason of it having variety. btw earlier i was talking to a friend of mine who is living in tokyo, he might attend i hope so cause i would like many pictures photos are the closest thing i have of an origami convention ha ha ha

[PauliusOrigami]

Convention starts today!!!!! yeahhhh. cant wait for book contents..

[Eyalr2]

I agree. I can't wait for the content of the book also.(although I am ordering it anyway today).
I know of about 3 good models that will probably be on the book,but I am really curious about the rest.
I really like Kamiya models,and I guess only one model by him will be on the book(too bad-I was hoping for a surprise of more than one model,but no chance...).
I really hope that one of Takashi models will be published on the book-one of his figure model.I have a feeling that maybe his new skull will be on the book,but it's just a feeling...
I also hope for another Kawahata animal model.
I can't wait to fold some new complex and challenging models.

[joshuaorigami]

me too!
i want some super complex models to fold!