MC - Methyl Cellulose

Vkai · Post by **Vkai** » January 17th, 2011, 2:17 pm

!tyza!! wrote: Vkai, how would you go about making a two coloured piece of double tissue?
would the colour from each overlap?

thanks, your testimonial is very helpful . TJ Doherty

It depends wheter it is bleeding or non-bleeding tissue.
With non-bleeding i cant really see any color changes (altho it also depends on tissue thickness)
With bleeding tissue there is a small color overlap but it doesnt bother me to be honest,for example with red and yellow i got orange on one side and pink on the other and i must say i really love how it looks.

shortloldude · Post by **shortloldude** » February 21st, 2011, 6:01 am

I think I read somewhere (on these forums)a while ago that MC does not stick to foil, so would it be possible to cover a surface in aluminum foil and try to make double tissue on it and peel it off the foil when it is dry?

cjbnc · Post by **cjbnc** » February 21st, 2011, 1:58 pm

I think the trick of it would be to have no wrinkles in the foil. The MC would get stuck in any dents or scratches. Plus, if the foil is not stuck to whatever surface it is on, you'd wrinkle it the first time you tried to get the paper off.

shortloldude · Post by **shortloldude** » February 21st, 2011, 5:57 pm

Thanks! This is why I ask, I thought there might be a problem I was overlooking and wanted to check before I tried.

Hellome360 · Post by **Hellome360** » February 22nd, 2011, 7:12 pm

Hi I just wanted to know what methyl cellulose actually does. Does it give the paper malleability? does it require wet folding to acheive this? please reply!

HankSimon · Post by **HankSimon** » February 24th, 2011, 12:33 am

MC can do two things:
1. It can provide sizing and body to thinner and flimsy paper, such as tissue paper, enabling you to have sharper creases with thin paper (sometimes needed for intricate or complex models). You may not need to wet fold, after the paper is treated and dried.

2. MC provides a reproducible way to wet paper and to slow down how the paper dries out, while you are trying to wet fold a model.

3. You can dry fold a model and then wet it towards the end for some minor shaping and to help the model hold its shape.

4. Or You can wet fold from the beginning, allowing you to achieve a roundness, a more organic shaping, and a model with more life-like warmth to it.

I strongly recommend experimenting with wet folding to grow more comfortable with it... It is just another skill, but allows you to elevate your ability to sculpt amazing models...

Sadly, I cannot wet fold ...... a tear falls on my Yoshizawa mouse ....

- Hank SImon

oz · Post by oz » February 24th, 2011, 3:42 am

...... a tear falls on my Yoshizawa mouse ....

Just fold it, and... TADA! Wetfolding!

Hellome360 · Post by **Hellome360** » February 24th, 2011, 10:41 pm

Haha, thanks hank, really helpful:) will order some in the future.

HankSimon · Post by **HankSimon** » February 25th, 2011, 2:29 am

As Oz said, you do Not need MC to learn how to wet fold. You can dampen construction paper with a light spray of water or a damp rag, then sculpt the paper, and observe the results when it dries.

MC gives you additional qualities, as described above, which you don't always need.

Watch Yoshizawa fold a swan ... using high rag paper and a damp cloth.

- Hank Simon

jijetelu · Post by **jijetelu** » March 2nd, 2011, 1:08 pm

HankSimon wrote: Watch Yoshizawa fold a swan ... using high rag paper and a damp cloth.- Hank Simon

do you have a link?

is there any guide about wet folding or folding using/applying MC at later stages of folding.

Hellome360 · Post by **Hellome360** » March 2nd, 2011, 5:23 pm

Can polyvinyl Acetate be used as a substitute for methylcellulose?

Trakthor · Post by **Trakthor** » March 2nd, 2011, 5:52 pm

Going to create MC treated double tissue paper tonight for the first time in my life

wish me good luck

jijetelu · Post by **jijetelu** » March 2nd, 2011, 10:51 pm

jijetelu wrote:
HankSimon wrote: Watch Yoshizawa fold a swan ... using high rag paper and a damp cloth.- Hank Simon
do you have a link?

is there any guide about wet folding or folding using/applying MC at later stages of folding.

really nobody ?

I am folding R. Lang's Scorpion from Unryu, when sould I start with adding MC and where ?

FrumiousBandersnatch · March 2nd, 2011, 11:00 pm

There is no guide for wet-finishing. The explanation of it is a bit lengthy.

HankSimon · Post by **HankSimon** » March 3rd, 2011, 2:14 am

Oops ! Sorry... Here's Yoshizawa's Swan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58GdBN4NWz8

Plan to watch it all the way through, many times.

1. You'll have to Google for Origami "Wetfolding" for some links.
I think Lang has a paper, and there are a few more.
2. I've never seen anything about wet finishing - it is kinda like shaping, but with a little water. I think Quentin uses this technique. I've used it a little.
3. Unryu - Hack opinion only !!! Do not trust... but I think that I've read that unryu requires wet folding from the beginning... If I am very wrong, maybe someone will feel irritated at my ignorance and clarify.
4. PV Acetate - Google returns: http://design.origami.free.fr/bestof/di ... /Garza.htm ... search for others.

- Hank Simon

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MC - Methyl Cellulose

Yoshizawa Swan