Robert J. Lang - Scorpion HP (CP)

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » June 10th, 2009, 9:28 pm

I didn't see a point in making a new topic about this so i thought i'd post this here. I attemped this model last week and was actually somewhat successful in folding this model. I folded it from a 70cmx70cm square and found that the result is very small, so i recommed using a 1m+ square. Anyway, im hoping the pictures will show and feel free to comment on it and my flickr's in my sig. Seen as though I haven't seen no attempts of this on the web, i thought that i'd break the ice and now i hope to see more people fold this model.

gradenne · Post by **gradenne** » June 10th, 2009, 10:21 pm

Nice one. I've been studying it for some time, I think I will try it when I get stuck or frustrated with Kamiya's Ryu-Zin.

By the way, what grid size and reference points did you use ?
Someone in this thread wrote about a 98 grid, but when I studied it (in a purely theorical way on my computer screen, witout printing or trying to fold it) I found a vertical subdivision (that means horizontal creases) in 52, and 30° and 60° folds starting from he crossing of these creases with a vertical central crease.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » June 11th, 2009, 8:19 am

I struggled with the reference points which is why i drawn some lines on. All I can say is once you have the red lines it should be pretty easy. When I do fold this model again i shall make a guide. The base can be found on my flickr.

topsu · Post by **topsu** » June 11th, 2009, 8:58 am

Congrats on folding that CP

Must be quite painful to make all those sinks...

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » June 11th, 2009, 9:36 am

Indeed. I also forgot to mention. If you look at the picture on langs website, the left side of the scorpion is totally different to the right. 2 different versions are on one model. The legs are much more together on the right side than on the left and are folded differently.

topsu · Post by **topsu** » June 11th, 2009, 10:16 am

I can't see the difference.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » June 11th, 2009, 11:55 am

Where the last legs come out.
[img]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii10 ... erence.jpg[/img]

topsu · Post by **topsu** » June 11th, 2009, 12:08 pm

Look carefully, the leg is just in a shade so it looks like it's the body

ftangdude55 · Post by **ftangdude55** » June 11th, 2009, 12:18 pm

That is just a trick of perspective. Both of the back legs have 3 segments. It just seems like the left back leg is positioned like that because the first joint on the leg aligns with the abdomen of the scorpion. In short, both back legs are the in the same position same. I highly doubt that Robert Lang would make a slip-up like that.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » June 11th, 2009, 8:26 pm

Your right, teaches me to pay more attention.

gradenne · Post by **gradenne** » June 12th, 2009, 8:36 pm

gradenne wrote: I found a vertical subdivision (that means horizontal creases) in 52

In fact it was 57 and not 52, I should have ckecked the notes I took bebore posting...

Seems that Lang is fond of strange grid sizes, his Camel Spider is based on a 58x58 grid !

dziku · Post by **dziku** » July 11th, 2009, 11:56 pm

I think it's 56th but only horizontal. If so, my question is where 'put' 1st equilateral triangle to solve vertical division? could it be a triangle based on 6-28 section (in horizontal division)? But you know, I'm guessing so it could be like a "Far, far away... story". :/

ftangdude55 · Post by **ftangdude55** » July 12th, 2009, 1:48 am

After some inspection of the vertical divisions, I have discovered that the basic, vertical division (the thinner one in the CP) is, in fact, 99ths. The larger division is 49.5s. Did you notice the small margin at either side of the CP? Well, that division is 1/198th, one half of 1/99th.

In fact, the first thing you want to do, before starting the model is fold over that margin, and MC it down so that it doesn't flap around. Then you would divide the paper into 49ths, and then 98ths, since both side margins combined are equal to 1/99th.

So, there are your basic divisions. Those should be able to lead you to finding the other lines as well.

dziku · Post by **dziku** » July 12th, 2009, 5:48 pm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluepaper/3676169432/

look at the description

topsu · Post by **topsu** » July 12th, 2009, 7:32 pm

LOL, so that's Langs little secret

Nah, I'm okay with that.