MC - Methyl Cellulose

[leung_wwy]

i just had a weird experience with mc - 2 pieces of hanji:

i mc'ed one on glass, lay the 2nd piece on, then mc'ed it

they dried perfectly and were well stuck together.

then when i started folding, the paper started splitting apart. the more i folded, the more it split, to the point where the piece of paper became two very crisp mc'ed pieces of paper.

the paper were otherwise fine. Can someone tell me where I went wrong?

[gailprentice]

then when i started folding, the paper started splitting apart. the more i folded, the more it split, to the point where the piece of paper became two very crisp mc'ed pieces of paper.

the paper were otherwise fine. Can someone tell me where I went wrong?

Sorry I can't answer your question - I just am adding that this has happened to me when I've bonded banana fiber paper and mango leaf paper together with mc. Not every time but a couple of times. Maybe it has something to do with the thickness of the mc. My mc is a bit different in thickness every time I mix it. Or maybe the papers just don't bond 100% and then don't hold up to the type of fold. I don't fold complex models so my papers aren't stressed too much.

good luck!

[origamimasterjared]

It sounds to me like your MC solution was too watery. Papers should be permanently bound.

[leung_wwy]

thankss i'll add a few more spoon of mc to my solution and try again

my mc is a bit weird - it's yellowish (dries clear though) and takes at a lot of spoons before getting to a thick consistency

i got it from a bookbinder. it's very old - looked like no one has asked for any for more than10 years

[Growlanator]

just done my 1st attempt at MC'ing 2 sheets together, I have used 2 20cm squares of tissue i got in a discovery pack from my last order of paper.

Will post results up when I have some


Success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

had a few fibres around the edges that needed trimming but it now appears I have created my 1st sheet of double tissue with MC

Now what to fold :S

[Thunderfudge]

I know Metylan Normal can be used as MC (I think it's MC with a bit of preservatives? That's what I heard), but the only one available for me is Metylan Special. Does anyone know if this is still ok to use? I would try it myself but haven't really had time recently. Thanks

[origami_8]

I think it should be ok, but haven't tried it yet.

[debugmode]

Hi guys I got Question;

Anybody know; is there any different between methyl cellulose
& Carboxy methyl cellulose ???

[SpK]

Hi,

I've recently gotten some tissue and MC and tried making the paper, but one problem I keep running into is serious wrinkling when I put on the MC. After it dries I have these jutting lines coming out of the paper from the wrinkles. I've tried rolling something on top to flatten it but it rips the paper, and Ive also tried using my fingers to flatten the wrinkles. The finger thing helps but not a lot.

I thought it might have been a problem of MC:water ratio, in which I tried both thick and thin, but nothing changed.

I'm really not sure what to do. Is this how double tissue is supposed to turn out? Could it be a problem with the tissue paper I have (because I know for sure I have the right MC/are there different types of tissue paper)?

[Trouble]

is your paper on a smooth water resistant surface???

[SpK]

Its on glass, like a piece of glass from a picture frame.

[orislater]

carboxy methyl cellulose is the same but it is a little bit stronger

[debugmode]

Hi guys I got Question;

Anybody know; is there any different between methyl cellulose
& Carboxy methyl cellulose ???

carboxy methyl cellulose is the same but it is a little bit stronger

Thanx your reply orislater

[orislater]

lol i just pulled off of langs site.y
anyway your welcome.

why does nobody visit my flickr?

[Ben385]

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Hope this helps!