How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

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How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

Postby OrigamiasaEnthusiast » May 15th, 2020, 2:35 pm

Can you guys help? I figured how to divide into five but not into forty. :oops: I just don't know what to do I know to divide the fifths into eights but apart from that...zilch. I'm trying to make a grid for the dobsonfly.
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Re: How do I divide into 40?

Postby Sunburst » May 15th, 2020, 4:41 pm

Ok, so you divide in fifths all valley folds on one side. One thing you can do then is turn the paper over and pinch what are now mountain folds, bring them to the next fold and crease. That will allow you to divide each fifth in half (so you get tenth). Repeat the process on each tenth division to divide in 20 and then again for 40.
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Re: How do I divide into 40?

Postby OrigamiasaEnthusiast » May 15th, 2020, 4:57 pm

Thank you! Now I have to figure out how to mark this as a grid..... :?
Also how should I precrease it? Would I just collapse on the grid once everything is added? :? :oops:
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Re: How do I divide into 40?

Postby Gerardo » May 16th, 2020, 10:22 pm

What's the difference between "mark a grid" and "precrease it"? I must confess I can't really picture what you're asking :oops:.
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Re: How do I divide into 40?

Postby origami_8 » May 17th, 2020, 11:27 am

Mark a grid: Only pinch the edges
Precrease a grid: Fold through the whole paper

For a beginner who wants to fold the Dobsonfly, I would recommend precreasing, as only marking, adds an unnecessary degree of complexity.
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Re: How do I divide into 40?

Postby OrigamiasaEnthusiast » May 17th, 2020, 1:36 pm

Oh. This confused me because all the reference points...... :?
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Re: How do I divide into 40?

Postby Baltorigamist » May 17th, 2020, 7:52 pm

As long as you fold neatly, you just need to pay attention to where you make the diagonals. It's as simple as counting how many units each crease crosses.
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Finding the reference points to make the grid-read before an

Postby OrigamiasaEnthusiast » May 17th, 2020, 8:05 pm

Oh. Thanks....I meant more of the reference points of the areas where there wasn't a full crease, only an part. :? Well I guess I'll start the testfold.


Pardon me, but wouldn't dividing into 40 add extra creases? 8-[ :-k
To be exact, the areas I mentioned were the areas that didn't have a full crease line(down the whole cp). :? :? :?:
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Re: How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

Postby bethnor » May 26th, 2020, 4:11 am

another way to "mark a reference" is just use a pencil on the hidden side. purism aside, i think this method is most exact, particularly if the reference is an odd division (i.e., 17ths, 23rds, etc, etc).
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Re: How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

Postby Kabuntan » May 26th, 2020, 5:09 pm

bethnor wrote:another way to "mark a reference" is just use a pencil on the hidden side. purism aside

Using an out-of-ink pen to mark a reference without coloring the paper is also convenient.
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Re: How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

Postby OrigamiasaEnthusiast » June 3rd, 2020, 10:52 pm

Also,
Does anyone have tips on dividing any type of grids(specifically 48 and 40, but any grid in general)?
I am finding I can divide into those but cannot make it so it is M,V,M.
Any tips on this or making grids in general?
Any help would be much appreciated.
I found this video:



But the quality isn't the best and it is hard to follow with him using such large paper.
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Re: How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

Postby Baltorigamist » June 4th, 2020, 12:29 am

To divide into any grid number (or any proportion, for that matter), you can use the Crossing Diagonals theorem, which is outlined in Robert Lang's paper Origami and Geometric Constructions.

Making a grid where the creases alternate parity is as simple as folding half of the desired grid and turning the paper over before folding the rest of the creases. For a 48 grid, for example, you'd fold 24ths (using thirds), turn the paper over and fold each division in half.
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Re: How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

Postby origami_8 » June 4th, 2020, 8:01 am

Just what Balto said, with the addition, that if you have a coloured side, you start folding the grid with the coloured side up making valley folds (for 40th that would be dividing in 5, 10, 20) then turn over to the white side and make the remaining divisions as valley folds there.

Playing with Crease Patterns you might be interested to read Gerwin Sturm's incomplete Crease Pattern Tutorial from many years ago: https://www.origamiaustria.at/en/articles.php?lang=2#a4
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Re: How do I divide paper(square) into 40?

Postby OrigamiasaEnthusiast » June 4th, 2020, 1:58 pm

Balto, the second method you said seems to work. I'll be making the diagonal creases to finish the boxpleating, maybe this afternoon. Still hoping I won't have a 1 inch facehugger......
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