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Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 5th, 2012, 6:15 pm
by Harpseal
Coincidence, I always use printer paper unless it's a display model. Is there a paper that is great for sinks? I could really do with some help with them. I can practie them http://origamiaday.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/parabola/ with the Pleated Parabola. (You can turn one of those into an effective person) but is there a paper that helps sinks? I know this post hasn't had anything to do with shuki kato or any of my usual pessimistic "realshare shall floweth with illegal PDFs" but it really would help me if someone replied with an answer that would help me with this problem, and anyone else who had the same problem.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 5th, 2012, 7:45 pm
by origami-artist-galen
Diagramming is a pain, only six pages in so far after hours of tedious work...

Uh, here's page four:
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Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 5th, 2012, 9:25 pm
by Fluffy
Good job Shuki! What progrem are you using? :)

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 6th, 2012, 2:09 am
by phillipcurl
Dang, very nice, clean diagrams.
Can't wait to try them.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 6th, 2012, 6:51 pm
by Harpseal
Neither can I. Now get it published.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 6th, 2012, 9:51 pm
by origami-artist-galen
Fluffy wrote:Good job Shuki! What progrem are you using? :)
Thanks, I'm using Inkscape.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 7th, 2012, 7:08 pm
by Fluffy
origami-artist-galen wrote:
Fluffy wrote:Good job Shuki! What progrem are you using? :)
Thanks, I'm using Inkscape.
Thats what I was thinking. Are you going to diagram the Zoanoid Dragon? (Crossing fingers for a yes!)

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 7th, 2012, 7:39 pm
by phillipcurl
I highly doubt that. It would literrally take years to diagram.as reference: ryuzin 3.5 satoshi said would take at least 10 years to diagram.
ZD is if not as complicated, more complicated than ryuzin 3.5.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 8th, 2012, 2:05 pm
by marco paso
Uao!!!
This is incredible!!!

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 8th, 2012, 6:30 pm
by mummykicks
origami-artist-galen wrote:Diagramming is a pain, only six pages in so far after hours of tedious work...

Uh, here's page four:
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Before the digital age, diagrams were the only economically viable means to convey folding information, I don't believe that is true anymore. Photo diagrams with some added graphics can convey the same information, usually with better clarity, and would require a fraction of the effort to document. I don't think the publishing costs would be much different, unless it was color vs. grayscale, either way it's graphics.
I believe there would be very few people who wouldn't buy your book just because it didn't have traditional diagrams, especially if it meant being able to show the folding sequence for your ZD, for example.

You could take a poll in this forum to get an idea what the impact of doing something like this would be.

The question to ask in any project like this is:
What is the expected impact of the change in terms of sales?
Does expending the X extra hours of effort diagramming result in a sufficient additional return over photo diagrams to justify the effort?

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 8th, 2012, 8:04 pm
by phillipcurl
I think that computer generated diagrams look more professional, and cost less to print for a book.
Though they take more time, in the long run, they are better.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 8th, 2012, 9:33 pm
by topsu
Photo diagrams are often very hard to follow and that's why almost everyone still prefers the traditional diagrams. A CP + shaping instruction is something that hasn't really been done much yet but I believe it has potential. It would just be hard to publish in a book since knowing how to fold a CP requires extra knowledge.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 9th, 2012, 4:38 am
by phillipcurl
you could publish cp + shaping instructions in a book alongside with normal diagrams, for the really advanced models. Kind of like Kamiya did for ryuzin 3.5.

Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 11th, 2012, 5:50 am
by origami-artist-galen
Final page.
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Re: Should Shuki Kato make a book?

Posted: January 11th, 2012, 1:54 pm
by Alexorigami
Wow, 228 steps for the western dragon, I think SK's Bahamut will no longer keep the record for the most steps. That is, if you'll diagram other models, too.