who programs

[phillipcurl]

i've used PHP to create things not web-based at all, like small programs. but they need to be run with php, i haven't figured out how to compile it to a .exe yet...

[Harpseal]

Good description- thanks, i get it.
.exe compiling is one of those things that should be easy because it's taking it just the last step. You should look at the languages' site. All languages seem to have a website with tutorials and a wiki from my experience.

[phillipcurl]

i haven't done much progamming in like 2 years, harpseal

i'm going to attempt to learn flash to help develop this thing. but other than that, bleh.

[malifold]

I'm trying to learn Java, and I programmed some games on my calculator.

[Harpseal]

What? An ordinary calculator?

[malifold]

a graphing calculator, you need to get one for high school(at least in France)

[Harpseal]

You need scientific ones in england. I expect you need them as well in France?
They must be pretty clever if you can program on them to any extent. (I've never even seen one although i've heard that my school has some that are mainly used for plotting lines on graphs.)

[phillipcurl]

I programmed Pong on my calculator and entertained myself with it. fairly easy, the codes are in Basic, i think.

anyway, does anyone know where is a good place to learn Java? i don't want a tutorial that has to do with online progamming, i'm doing something different.

[Harpseal]

What's Game API? I think that's to do with java midlet game making. I hate looking up programming languages- you always find what you don't want.

[Razzmatazz]

I programmed Pong on my calculator and entertained myself with it. fairly easy, the codes are in Basic, i think.

anyway, does anyone know where is a good place to learn Java? i don't want a tutorial that has to do with online progamming, i'm doing something different.

before you tackle Java, learn C++ or C# to some degree. Past basics. java is harder than those two.

[Harpseal]

Not harder than C++ it isn't. Generally, C++ is the hardest programming language there is.

[phillipcurl]

i already have learned c++ to some degree, not enough to make anything but some random number generators and stuff like that. i'll try, though.
and harpseal: c++ is not the hardest, i can't remember the name, but there definitely is some harder than c++.

[spiritofcat]

C++ is not much hard as it is complex.
I guess it all depends on your definition of hard.
To me, things like Assembler and plain old C are harder than C++ because they work with a lower level of abstraction. It takes a lot more and cleverer code to achieve the same things in C or ASM than if you used C++.

[phillipcurl]

in my experience and opinion, there really is no hardest programming language to learn. its all dependent on what you know already. If you know c++ then Java will be easy for you, if you know PHP then perl will be easy for you, etc. it just depends on the person.

but if your looking to melt your brain... there is one language. Malbolge. after it was created, it took 2 years for the first program written in it to appear. and it wasn't even written by a human.


just look at these.

[Harpseal]

No thanks- i got a headache just looking at the picture on the page! It got worse writing this post! I just made "guess the number" on python!
Also, i think c++ is definitely the most professionally used language, or definitely more pro than most others, because python is quite professional- NASA uses it!