MC - Methyl Cellulose

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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby thedeadsmellbad » March 10th, 2019, 2:58 am

Baltorigamist wrote:Apologies if this has been covered here, but is it okay to mix two different brands of MC in the same mixture? If it matters, I'm talking about Elmer's Art Paste being mixed with Lineco methylcellulose. They should be the same stuff--or similar, at least--but I don't want to ruin any paper if it doesn't work.


My understanding is the Elmers is more of a PVA. It dries faster, while mc takes longer. They can definitely be mixed together, i would use a greater concentration of mc to to elmers when mixing them.
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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby thedeadsmellbad » March 10th, 2019, 3:03 am

In case it hasnt been mentioned yet, the CenterFold Ohio Origami Convention has a facebook page filled with videos with a panel of some of the worlds foremost experts on this subject, definitely worth taking a look at here is the link https://www.facebook.com/pg/centerfoldorigami/videos/?ref=page_internal
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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby thedeadsmellbad » March 10th, 2019, 3:14 am

here are two more from this last years CenterFold Ohio Origami Convention featuring Michael Lafosse & Richard Alexander explaining how to use mc.

part one
https://youtu.be/mbxcZ96pOdc

part two
https://youtu.be/17NT7jO4V_E
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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby AnswerMeSenpai54 » August 6th, 2019, 6:53 am

Hello everyone! Any tips and/or instructions for a person who is going to use mc for the first time? Do you first apply the mc on the glass or just apply it on the paper? Also I'm just going to treat a single sheet of mulberry tissue from the origami shop. Any help is appreciated!

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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby Baltorigamist » August 7th, 2019, 1:46 am

Put a thin, even coat of MC on the glass first, then roll the paper out on top. Soak the sheet of paper in a second coat, keeping it even as well. Depending on how many sheets you’re backcoating, you repeat the process for each sheet, laying the upper ones directly on top of the lower ones.
I know you said you’re only treating one sheet, but here’s a tip for gluing two sheets: Lay the second sheet crosswise to the first one (so the fibers are perpendicular). This will help prevent tearing, especially on the bottom layer.
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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby Merlyngami » August 7th, 2019, 7:58 am

Baltorigamist wrote:I know you said you’re only treating one sheet, but here’s a tip for gluing two sheets: Lay the second sheet crosswise to the first one (so the fibers are perpendicular). This will help prevent tearing, especially on the bottom layer.


That's clever, I'll have to keep it in mind. Sadly for normal cheap double tissue it's not so good since the sheets are rectangular, and the fibers are probably so short it doesnt make much difference.
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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby AnswerMeSenpai54 » August 7th, 2019, 9:15 am

Thanks! Also should I use mc liberally? I'm worried about it getting ripped.

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Re: MC - Methyl Cellulose

Postby thedeadsmellbad » September 4th, 2019, 4:53 pm

AnswerMeSenpai54 wrote:Thanks! Also should I use mc liberally? I'm worried about it getting ripped.

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Yes use it liberally, especially with thicker papers. :D
Also, i find it best to mist the paper with water first. When I use the mc, the paper will expand causing the paper to warp, which can create a series of problems, the water will negate that effect. Laying down mc on the glass first definitely works well. But for some people, they find that it becomes difficult to remove the paper afterward. If that doesn't happen for you then dont worry about it. But If you find you have trouble with the paper sticking to the glass, you can use a hydrophobic spray on the glass first, like rain-x. Another method would be to mc only the edges of the paper underneath on the glass, then all over the top as usual.
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