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Help with goliat

Posted: March 4th, 2006, 9:53 pm
by klickme
Here's the diagram:
http://www.origamichile.cl/gui/diagrama ... _Sirgo.pdf

I am trying to fold the steps from 1 to 7, but I don't understand step 8.

Could someone please give me some hints?

Here is my work:

Image

Posted: March 5th, 2006, 12:14 am
by origami_8
You have to free the paper you´ve folded to the middle in the beginning and refold it on the existing crease lines. It´s a little bit tricky but doable.
The finished result (after making the little petal folds) is known as blintzed frogbase and is a very good starting point for creating your own models :)
You can find an alternative folding method here: http://www.angelfire.com/co/cubo/Bfbase.html
(Thanks to Jorge E Jaramillo who posted this link on the mailing list)

Posted: March 5th, 2006, 11:38 am
by klickme
i must open the paper completely?
is step "seven" in the ALTERNATIVE BLINTZED FROG BASE
the same like step 8 in my diagram?

Posted: March 5th, 2006, 2:24 pm
by Daydreamer
There is no step 7 in the alternative blintzed frog base instructions....

What you have to do is this:
1. Fold these alternative instructions up to step 5 on all 4 sides.
2. Free the small triangle from underneath the top layer on all 4 sides (just pull it out)

When you have done that you should have the same as in step 13 of the Goliat diagrams and can continue from there. :)

Posted: March 5th, 2006, 2:36 pm
by klickme
wow, i'll try it. thanks!!!

sorry

Posted: March 5th, 2006, 6:05 pm
by klickme

Posted: March 8th, 2006, 10:42 pm
by kehom
origamichile.cl is down.
Any other place with this model?
I don´t even know how it looks like!

edit: ok, saw the picture at Terry´s site!

step 35

Posted: March 15th, 2006, 2:27 pm
by klickme
steps from 1 to 34 are ok, but I don't understand step 35 and 44.

Could someone please give me some hints?

thanks!!

Posted: March 15th, 2006, 2:36 pm
by Daydreamer
Step 35: Open the flap in the middle, fold the top point down along the dotted horizontal line and squash the flap flat to resemble what you see in the next step. Make sure to use the reference points given for your folds.

Step 44: Rearrange the layers to resemble the structure of Step 45.

Re: sorry

Posted: March 16th, 2006, 2:59 am
by Brimstone
klickme wrote:i don't understand step 4
http://www.angelfire.com/co/cubo/Bfbase.html


:?: :cry: :?:
"4. Petal fold using the creases from steps 2 and 3. Close the flap. Repeat behind."

After step 3 you are left with a waterbomb base with some creases. Using the creases from the previous steps, you just do a petal fold. Lift the layer that is on top of the model and the petal should form itself (if your creases are firm enough). Then close the model and it should look like the instruction that does not have a number but is before #5

Posted: March 16th, 2006, 6:03 pm
by klickme
i don't understand this:

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Posted: March 16th, 2006, 6:57 pm
by Daydreamer
The circled part is hidden by flap you are squashing down in step 35...

Posted: March 16th, 2006, 7:12 pm
by klickme
ok, but here you will see more...

[img]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8000/d6gt.jpg[/img]

Posted: March 16th, 2006, 7:40 pm
by Daydreamer
It might be that those details were left out of the diagram so that there aren't too many lines cluttering up the diagrams. From what I see they should be there but I would have to fold the model to be sure.