Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

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Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Augustus Agamemnon » December 29th, 2015, 6:23 pm

Does anyone have instructions for cool dragons like Ryujin 3.5? If not, at least a cp of it?

p.s.: I would really like to know how to fold the Zoanoid dragon by Shuki Kato(instructions, not the cp).
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Baltorigamist » December 29th, 2015, 6:44 pm

The CP for Ryuzin 3.5 is in the book World Of Super Complex Origami. The CPs for other versions (namely 2.1 and 1.0) are on Kamiya's website.

I'm pretty sure there are no instructions other than a CP for the Zoanoid Dragon. It's way too complex to diagram.
The only supercomplex dragons I know of that have diagrams are the Ancient Dragon (diagrams in Works Of Satoshi Kamiya 1) and Shuki Kato's Western Dragon--not sure if I got the name right, since he has two complex dragons diagrammed.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby mummykicks » December 29th, 2015, 11:07 pm

If you want to fold complex models like those you will have to learn to fold from cp's. There is really no other way.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby kex_er » December 30th, 2015, 12:55 pm

If your ale looking for diagram of complex dragon I found something http://dev.origami.art.pl/diagramy/113_diagram.PDF
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Augustus Agamemnon » December 30th, 2015, 2:52 pm

Did anyone solve the cp for the Zoanoid dragon? I saw it and it looks super complex. I'll begin it tomorrow but if anyone did succeed in solving it, which I doubt it, please tell me some hints or show me pictures of some stages during the foldings.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Baltorigamist » December 30th, 2015, 8:12 pm

The Zoanoid CP is pretty straightforward from the looks of it--just insanely complex.
If you need help, you can contact Shuki via this forum.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby bobzomgville » December 30th, 2015, 8:24 pm

Which zoanoid dragon are you doing? There are several versions and two published cps (I think) I could probably give you a more specific list of people if you answer this question.

That said, I think that your best bet for help is just outright asking Shuki. He's the only person who's done all of the versions, and since he designed it, most probably understands every part of it. However, there are several people both on this forum, and on flickr that have made it. For example, mummykicks, who posted above, has done one version 2. There are a few more and you can track them down just by searching Zoanoid Dragon in your search engine.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Augustus Agamemnon » December 30th, 2015, 10:17 pm

I would like to do the 2.0 version, but does anyone know Shuki Kato's username in this forum? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Baltorigamist » December 30th, 2015, 11:04 pm

He goes by origami-artist-galen.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Augustus Agamemnon » January 1st, 2016, 12:44 pm

I sent a message to origami-artist-galen. I've got another question: does anyone know any other dragons that aren't as complex as Ryujin 3.5 or the Zoanoid dragon but are still difficult to fold ? If there is one, please send me a cp of it.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Baltorigamist » January 1st, 2016, 2:12 pm

My old dragon design isn't supercomplex, but the CP is pretty involved. (Plus it has two rows of color-changed spikes down the back.)
If you want, I can upload the CP somewhere and send you the link.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Augustus Agamemnon » January 1st, 2016, 3:46 pm

Yes, I would like you to send me it.
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby Baltorigamist » January 1st, 2016, 5:46 pm

http://oi66.tinypic.com/2q351ki.jpg

The reference points are a little weird.
-Fold the right edge down to the main diagonal and pinch the top edge.
-Fold the pinch into the center of the paper and pinch on the upper right main diagonal.
Fold the top edge downward through the second pinch, and you should be able to find the rest of the creases from there.

Also, the color-changed spikes on the shoulders and hips are a little tricky to fold out. You have to swivel the raw edges upward through several layers. (Keep in mind I designed this back in 2011.)
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Re: Ryujin 3.5 or Zoanoid dragon?

Postby mummykicks » January 3rd, 2016, 6:05 am

Augustus Agamemnon wrote:I would like to do the 2.0 version, but does anyone know Shuki Kato's username in this forum? Thanks in advance!


I folded it twice. One was a test fold. I used a 34" square and I wouldn't want to use anything smaller than that. Test fold the head, and the leg/arm scales first, and even then they are a pain to collapse. Shuki has posted the collapsed base on flickr. The way I collapsed it worked, but folding to the base is better.
The chest area I never got right, and it wants to pull the scales apart when trying to collapse that area, so things fold and unfold a lot.

If I ever fold it again I would fold the scales and tape them on the inside to keep them from pulling apart, or maybe MC them. It would lead to a much cleaner result I think.
I actually printed the cp on the sheet for the first fold (I have access to wide format printer, but I think you could get it done at kinko's for a few bucks).

The second one I traced the cp with an embossing tool to pre-pre-crease it. It is MUCH quicker to do it that way then to fold a grid and spend all kinds of time counting squares and forgetting where you are.
I think I counted 6,000 folds or something insane like that.

It takes a really, really, long time to fold.
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