John Montroll's camel head

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 1st, 2006, 11:03 pm

Could someone please tell me how to get the head on John Montroll's camel from Origami Sculptures? At one step the head looks like a fox's and the instructions say pleat sink the head (or something like that) and then on the last step a very nice and complete head is shown. Could someone please give me hints, pictures, a movie maybe?

Thanksa

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 2nd, 2006, 7:30 pm

Come on people how about some help for a fellow folder? Or do all questions have to be about those extra complex 200+ step models?

Post by **origami_8** » June 2nd, 2006, 8:32 pm

Slow down a bit, IÂ´m sure most of us have to work in addition to folding, so we canÂ´t provide a help file in just a bit more than a day. Leave us some time and you may get your help without becoming annoying first.

David · Post by **David** » June 2nd, 2006, 8:34 pm

I know the model well, but I am currently 12,000 miles from my copy of the book- looking again at the picture, I seem to have opened out the head a bit?
May be worth zooming in and seeing if it gives you a better idea.

I will be back with my origami books in about 3 weeks if no one replies sooner

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 2nd, 2006, 9:00 pm

Ok. I kind of understand what you did by the picture, but the diagrams suggest you get a very detailed head and yours (no offense intended) is not very detailed. So I guess the model (not yours but all of them) is not as nice as the diagrams show it to be.

Or maybe it takes a lot of shaping and modeling to make it work

David · Post by **David** » June 2nd, 2006, 11:57 pm

Joha wrote: So I guess the model (not yours but all of them) is not as nice as the diagrams show it to be.

Or maybe it takes a lot of shaping and modeling to make it work

I was kinda happy with the result- but yes (see my other models posted) there is often a lot more to finish a model than waht the diagrams describe.

for this reason alone it is worth getting to a convention somewhere some time.

I will take a look at the diagrams when i get home.

David

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 3rd, 2006, 1:38 am

Ok David thanks for your help

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 4th, 2006, 3:01 am

origami_8, thanks for the warm welcome

thedeadsmellbad · Post by **thedeadsmellbad** » June 8th, 2006, 1:33 am

This is a great model & is every bit as detailed as the diagram illustrates. The finished model might vary between attempts, but you can make it look identical if that is what you want.

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 8th, 2006, 3:40 am

Do you have any advice on how to form the head, something more detailed than "crimp fold the head" as the diagrams say?

thedeadsmellbad · Post by **thedeadsmellbad** » June 8th, 2006, 11:50 pm

we must have different versions of the book because I cannot find that quote anywhere in the instructions.
Is there a specific step where you need help?

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 9th, 2006, 12:06 am

thedeadsmellbad wrote:we must have different versions of the book because I cannot find that quote anywhere in the instructions.
Is there a specific step where you need help?

I do not actually own the book so the instruction might not say that exaclty. The book belongs to a library. It is step 37 I think where they show the head like a fox and give some simple instructions and the head never appears again until the last step where they show a very nice and detailed head that I haven't been able to fold from the instructions or the picture that David provided. So please look at that step and explain it to me if you were so kind

wolf · Post by **wolf** » June 9th, 2006, 1:40 am

The instructions at step 37 seem clear enough:

1) fold the ear: simple valley folds.
2) form the neck: a reverse fold to narrow the neck.
3) Crimp fold the mouth: a straightforward crimp to bend the front of the head down to form the snout.

Joha, can you post an image of your attempts at the camel head and point out where you're having problems?

Joha · Post by **Joha** » June 9th, 2006, 3:37 am

wolf wrote:The instructions at step 37 seem clear enough...

Sure the instructions seem clear but they are not enough. From step 37 the head is no longer shown until the last step when it is shown finished with a lot of detail on it. Mine has just a crimp but it does not resemble the final image.

It is not like I do not understand what the instructions tell you to do. It is that I consider that they do not take you to the final model as it is shown there.

I do not have a camera or access to one, but thanks for the offer. Since you've taken interest in this thread, would you mind trying to give me more hints on how to finish it?

wolf · Post by **wolf** » June 9th, 2006, 4:13 am

Which of the three instructions is giving you problems? The ears, the neck or the crimp?

The Origami Forum

John Montroll's camel head

John Montroll's camel head

Re: John Montroll's camel head