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do you hav to print the cps and then solve them or what do you do?

rockerorigami wrote:do you hav to print the cps and then solve them or what do you do?

You can print and solve them, or read them off the internet.

I have a few questions. First of all, how do all of you find reference points on cps? What kind of clues do you look for to find them? Question two, how do all of you find grids when they are not listed; especially in non-boxpleated cps? Question three, any good SIMPLE cps to start out with. Peacock is easy, dwarf is impossible for me. Anything between there should be okay. Question four, how do all of you manage to collapse box-pleated cps in sections?
Thanks for any replies in advance.
P.S.
I might have some more questions that I haven't thought of yet.

ETMOrigami wrote:I have a few questions. First of all, how do all of you find reference points on cps? What kind of clues do you look for to find them? Question two, how do all of you find grids when they are not listed; especially in non-boxpleated cps? Question three, any good SIMPLE cps to start out with. Peacock is easy, dwarf is impossible for me. Anything between there should be okay. Question four, how do all of you manage to collapse box-pleated cps in sections?
Thanks for any replies in advance.
P.S.
I might have some more questions that I haven't thought of yet.

I usually do the fools way of doing it. I start taking a screen shot on my Mac. It lists the number of pixels (x and y). I measure the # of pixels to one point of the fold, and then the # of pixels of the square's length. Probably not the best way of doing things, but it works for me.

ETMOrigami, there are several ways of finding reference points... the first that people will tell you is usually Reference Finder, and it is good, but not the best. Another way is to check for references you already know how to get to, such as thirds, fifths, sevenths, et cetera. I actually made a help topic on reference points a while back, you can find that here. You can do this be either measuring and marking, or just by folding the printed CP into thirds or just eyeball it.

The last way involves math, and only do it unless you absolutely can't find another, better way to get to a point. Set up a proportion, like this: and solve for X. Using the number you got, measure to that point on your paper and fold the line. I believe there is more in this in ODS, but I'm not sure. I don't have the book, just briefly looked through it in a library. Hope this helps, not sure if I left anything out as those are the only three methods I have ever used.
I would advise against using James' method, though it is pretty much the same as the third one I gave.

I agree, Phillip. It it a pretty bad way of doing things, but it works okay for simpler CP's, which are the one's I do. I agree with Phillip, his ways are much better.

I've been folding for a few years now, and I have the skill to fold complex models. I was searching around, and found some CPs online,and I decided to read a guide, and so I did. Everywhere I go, it says "practice makes perfect." Yes, it does. So, I was wondering where I could find some easy CPs, or models that have easy CPs, I would be grateful if you would be willing to share them with me.
Thanks!

If you haven't already, you could try Eric Joisel's Dwarf.

EvilSanta wrote:I've been folding for a few years now, and I have the skill to fold complex models. I was searching around, and found some CPs online,and I decided to read a guide, and so I did. Everywhere I go, it says "practice makes perfect." Yes, it does. So, I was wondering where I could find some easy CPs, or models that have easy CPs, I would be grateful if you would be willing to share them with me.
Thanks!

One of my first cps was Satoshi Kamiya's Ryujin 1.2. It may no be the easiest model in the world but in my opinion, it beats those "easy" cps that are so easy that they are circle-packed instead of box-pleated. Djordje Jovanovic,(his YouTube Channel) has been making many crease pattern model tutorials which I have found very useful for helping me figure out different ways to collapse box-pleated models. Hope that helped some.

ETMOrigami wrote:it beats those "easy" cps that are so easy that they are circle-packed instead of box-pleated.

huh? in my experience, circle packed CP's are much harder than box pleated.

EvilSanta wrote:I've been folding for a few years now, and I have the skill to fold complex models. I was searching around, and found some CPs online,and I decided to read a guide, and so I did. Everywhere I go, it says "practice makes perfect." Yes, it does. So, I was wondering where I could find some easy CPs, or models that have easy CPs, I would be grateful if you would be willing to share them with me.
Thanks!

some good ones that i'd recommend starting out on are some of Kamiya's simpler 22.5 models... like his plesiosaurus, eagle ray, chocobo. To get an introduction to box pleating, look up some of OrigamiPete's stuff. he has some neat prehistoric crease patterns. Joisel's dwarf is another good one, and so is ryujin 1.2 though i wouldn't recommend it for a beginner. Another nice one is Kamiya's kzinssie type 2...just look it up, it looks hard but the refs and collapse are actually really fun and not that hard. I have a few CP's on my photostream, 4 of my own which are all pretty easy, and a few of Kamiya's simple ones that I'd recommend you try. Good luck.

EvilSanta wrote:I've been folding for a few years now, and I have the skill to fold complex models. I was searching around, and found some CPs online,and I decided to read a guide, and so I did. Everywhere I go, it says "practice makes perfect." Yes, it does. So, I was wondering where I could find some easy CPs, or models that have easy CPs, I would be grateful if you would be willing to share them with me.
Thanks!

Swapnik Jagarlapudi's amazing Euthysanius Beetle is twice as easier than it looks. Djordje has an awesome tutorial on YouTube who also explains a tad bit about CP's so it might be useful to you. Also, phillipcurl's suggestion's are great.

phillipcurl wrote: huh? in my experience, circle packed CP's are much harder than box pleated.

It was a sarcastic reference to the cps you find when you look look up easy cps on the internet. Basically what I should have said though is that the simple cp models you look up on the internet show easy models withs cps instead of easy cps that create simple models.

oh ok, i get it now

I still don't get cps.