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Maitreya Help me please!

Posted: June 17th, 2004, 5:58 am
by origamifan
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Hello everyone.
These pics are the Maitreya folded by Mr.Hojyo takashi himself.
I've folded this model but I have some problems.If anyone folded it perfectly please teach me.

1.If I sink the "hat" in step 35 then I cant pull it down in step 94 because the space is too tight.
2.I get confused between step 105~106. Can't pull out the "skirt".
3.My finished model has no soul of living ,just a dead model,not as vivid as Mr.Hojyo's one.
Can anyone give me a hint to complete this model?

Posted: June 18th, 2004, 9:42 am
by saj
I think the key to folding this model lies with the type of paper used. What type of paper are you using?

saj

Posted: June 24th, 2004, 4:27 am
by origamifan
I used the A4 copy paper.I wonder what kind of paper does Mr.Hojyo use?

Posted: June 24th, 2004, 9:23 am
by gilad_zn
It looks kind of like Elephant hide, but I'm not sure. I got the best result for this model when I used elephant hide, but it wasn't nearly as graceful as Hojyo Takashi's. It's a very difficult model to fold well.
I was taught this model by Hojyo Takashi at PCOC, and he suggested using tweesers in the final shaping stages. I also think it's be better to fold the final steps without looking at the diagrams, but rather folding to taste or by looking at the pictures of the folded model.

Posted: June 24th, 2004, 1:37 pm
by Joe the white
If its not elephant hide, its probably origamido paper.

Posted: June 24th, 2004, 2:36 pm
by TheRealChris
however... it would probably help, if you would simply use a larger sheet of paper, instead of using another kind?


Christian

Posted: June 25th, 2004, 5:21 am
by Hiba
To Origamifan: Hello guy! I have been so busy recently with diagraming issues.
:D

I also get suck in modifying the shape of The Maitreya,too. I do look at the completed picture but it 's no use.
The diagram is too faint so I cant read a word of the instructions.
Anyway,this is a nice model.

Posted: July 3rd, 2004, 7:57 pm
by gilad_zn
[img]http://www.origamitips.com/gallery/maitreya.jpg[/img]

Arrgg :( :cry:. This model is very difficult to fold well. I used 25cm of thin brown wrapping paper painted blue (with Ecoline water based color). The shaping of the head was terrible, because there was only one layer which had to be pulled apart for the 3D look, nad the paper was too thin...

Posted: July 4th, 2004, 3:51 pm
by Hiba
:D :D Man,forgive me but I'll upload my photo of this model to you.
Even Nicolas can't fold this model perfectly as Mr.Hojyo

:lol: :lol:
To Origamifan :
1.You cant pull down the "hat" because you don't reverse down the "ears" copmletely. You must reverse the ears down copmpletely in order to pull the hat down.

2. To pull down the " skirt " out you must pull the 2nd layer from the top.
3. Come to my place and I'll teach you how to modify the body.

Need help with Maitreya base CP

Posted: July 13th, 2007, 4:43 pm
by aspiringFolder
Hello,

Recently, I started folding again and am currently starting to learning to fold CPs. Since I like human models, I like the work of Hojyo Takashi quite a bit. I would like to fold his various human base as practice. First up is the Maitreya base, I have figured out most of the
directions of the fold, but am not quite sure on some that make up the head. I made a CP of the base with mountain folds indicated by blue lines and valley folds by red lines and the questionable folds labeled by letters j to s.

I have two questions, are the directions of the fold j to s correct?

And how do I get the reference point U so that the head region is not too big or too small?

[img]http://usera.imagecave.com/aspiringFold ... eyaBCp.PNG[/img]

Posted: July 13th, 2007, 6:48 pm
by A random folder
The line is in thirds. If I'm not mistaken.

Re: Need help with Maitreya base CP

Posted: July 13th, 2007, 8:43 pm
by origamimasterjared
aspiringFolder wrote:I have two questions, are the directions of the fold j to s correct?

And how do I get the reference point U so that the head region is not too big or too small?
Nope, those directions are not correct. it should go mountain-valley-mountain-valley...all the way in. i.e. jk blue, mn red, p blue, qr red, s blue, and the lines going through u red.
The line is in thirds. If I'm not mistaken.
No, it's not. Make a bird base. be sure to fold the flaps up, then back down. Okay, note where the crease from folding the flap up crosses the center line of the flap, unfold to a square. Fold through that point, parallel to the edge of the square. That's the big line you want.

Posted: July 14th, 2007, 3:11 pm
by aspiringFolder
Thanks so much. Now the hard part begins, figuring out a proper folding sequence.

Posted: July 14th, 2007, 4:00 pm
by Oruhito
My suggestion to anyone folding this maitreya is use GOOD PAPER.
If there is one thing I learned from Michael Lafosse that's most important
it is paper selection! With something of this complexity A4 paper is just
not going to make the cut. Elephant hide may be a little thick but anything
like lightweight watercolour paper or origamido paper would work.

Hojyo's folding sequences may be complex but what seperates his models from others is the wet-folding and paper. You can only get so far with A4 so try out some nice handmade paper. The results will be much better!

Posted: July 15th, 2007, 4:09 pm
by aspiringFolder
Thanks Oruhito for the tip. I take it that you have folded the Maitreya model. Here is a question for you and for all those who have folded
it, would you recommend folding the full the crease pattern of the base first or use some folding sequence for the whole model?