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Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: January 1st, 2012, 6:07 pm
by Harpseal
I haven't done it yet, what size paper do you use?

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: January 1st, 2012, 9:04 pm
by phillipcurl
i used 19 inch.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: January 6th, 2012, 7:09 pm
by Harpseal
For those of you who can't convert to metric: That's 49/48 cm.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 4th, 2012, 4:24 pm
by Harpseal
What's the grid for this model and how do you get it if it's something annoying like 37? (only answer the last question if it is an annoying number)
Thanks in advance

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 4th, 2012, 6:37 pm
by phillipcurl
Harpseal wrote:For those of you who can't convert to metric: That's 49/48 cm.

48,3
but the paper i was using was 44cm, i made a mistake typing that, i just noticed.

Harpseal wrote:What's the grid for this model

you don't need to use a grid on this model. its wasting your time. to better explain what i mean, watch this video.
everything can be found without a grid. easy.

and how do you get it if it's something annoying like 37? (only answer the last question if it is an annoying number)

I'm going to answer it anyway because you will likely need to use a grid with an annoying number in the future:

1. take an example grid, lets say 27, which is a prime number. therefore, the only factors are 1 and 27. find the nearest number to 27 that is not a prime number. in this case, 28.

2. fold the grid of 28. (7, 14, 28)

3. cut off 1 unit of 2 sides that are touching each other.
not like this: | |
but like this: |__
(of course the lines represent the edges)

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 4th, 2012, 7:41 pm
by Harpseal
Thanks! When folding a prime grid, i'm assuming you'd get bigger paper to make up for the bit you cut off? (Surely this is a case of well duh?)
Out of curiosity, how do you split the paper into 7?

Also, i won't be on a computer for ages, and i have perfect paper for this model, smaller than most, but very agile, and light. I can't watch the video, although i will when i get on a computer so what does that video say? I don't mind wasting my time if it means getting started!

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 4th, 2012, 11:03 pm
by Raptorex55
I can explain the steps he goes through or I'd you still have some computer access, which I assume you do, you can print the fan-diagrams. Googling 3.5 PDF reveals it as the first link. (PM) Many of the processes are similar. If this isn't possible I'll be happy to explain the process Tadashi Mori uses.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 5th, 2012, 8:39 am
by Harpseal
Thanks! So that was what the pm was about! (I read it first)
Thanks for all your help, i do have computer access, but for only a short time every day. I need that access because my phone can't read PDFs.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 5th, 2012, 3:09 pm
by phillipcurl
Harpseal wrote:Thanks! When folding a prime grid, i'm assuming you'd get bigger paper to make up for the bit you cut off? (Surely this is a case of well duh?)

yes, although usually the part you cut off isn't really that much. i save the bits of paper and glue them together to reuse them, because i am too cheap to continue buying expensive paper if i just throw away 50% of it.

Out of curiosity, how do you split the paper into 7?

this explains it really well. he also has videos for just about every grid you can imagine. real helpful.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 5th, 2012, 4:53 pm
by Alexorigami
27 is not a prime number. 3x3x3=27
Gilad Aharoni has a list with a lot of methods for dividing the paper: http://www.giladorigami.com/Articles_Divisions.html

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 5th, 2012, 6:17 pm
by phillipcurl
smartass [-X
bah, you know what i meant.
nice link by the way. i'll be sure too look at that more thoroughly later.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 6th, 2012, 8:19 am
by Harpseal
How didn't i (or you) notice??
3x9=27

Thanks for the help, i always seem to need sevens (for some reason they always seem to be the perfect size) and 5s, and 3s, although i knew how to do 5s and 3s, but i wasn't very good at 5s. Thanks again!

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 6th, 2012, 8:20 am
by Harpseal
How didn't i (or you) notice??
3x9=27

Thanks for the help, i always seem to need sevens (for some reason they always seem to be the perfect size) and 5s, and 3s, although i knew how to do 5s and 3s, but i wasn't very good at 5s. Thanks again!

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 6th, 2012, 10:46 am
by phillipcurl
i don't know how i didn't notice that, i am actually really good at math...
that may be the reason though.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix Help Topics

PostPosted: June 7th, 2012, 7:48 am
by Harpseal
Overlooking the obvious. Happens to me all the time, most commonly in french lessons, although when making Satoshi's Eagle Ray, i almost gave up because i couldn't see where he was going.