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Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 6th, 2012, 12:15 am
by blubaibi33
sajprj wrote:i am having trouble at step 66. i cannot seem to find any creases on the left side, but on the right side i can. :? i'm pretty confused. could someone post some pics on how to do step 66? i've already googled "how-to's", so dont tell me to go do that.

thanks!


Ok Sajprj that is the part most people get stumped... but its in a nutshell a very irregularly collapsed Ellias Stretch with a combination of pulling up the diagonal pleating you made in Step 25! =) Just use those as guideline and fold up and collapse. An easy method is to cound off the bottom corner 4 squares and hold the diagonal part down that way it makes the collapsing stage easier.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 6th, 2012, 3:27 pm
by Krikke
sajprj wrote:i am having trouble at step 66.


You can find some pictures of this step in the sticky topic on this forum concerning the Ancient Dragon:
http://snkhan.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8111

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 6th, 2012, 4:46 pm
by GeorgianFolder
50cm double tissue is good paper for ancient dragon ??

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 7th, 2012, 11:28 am
by Ronn55555
I think VOG crumpled is a pretty good choice. Look at my result up the top.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 11th, 2012, 2:39 am
by Raptorex55
Preaching tracing paper! Cheap, accessible and terrific results.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 11th, 2012, 3:35 am
by bethnor
Ronn55555 wrote:I think VOG crumpled is a pretty good choice. Look at my result up the top.


you get the same result if you tape together 4 sheets of kami. so why dump the extra money?

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 12th, 2012, 3:00 am
by Ronn55555
bethnor wrote:
Ronn55555 wrote:I think VOG crumpled is a pretty good choice. Look at my result up the top.


you get the same result if you tape together 4 sheets of kami. so why dump the extra money?


I tried doing that and it is not the same result as you can see below:
Image

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 12th, 2012, 3:38 am
by bethnor
Ronn55555 wrote:
I tried doing that and it is not the same result as you can see below:
Image


you yourself said you used MC to touch up the final result of the VOG paper. if you use glue, tape, and other adulterants, you can certainly make the kami version more presentable too. that's the whole point you "VOG paper ROX" folks seem to be missing--if you are willing to use extra touches to give the final model an extra nice appearance, why should you spend the extra money on VOG paper? take a look through shuki kato's flickr account. a lot of his models are done with tracing paper and he just paints them at the end.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 12th, 2012, 5:08 pm
by Ronn55555
bethnor wrote:
Ronn55555 wrote:
I tried doing that and it is not the same result as you can see below:
Image


you yourself said you used MC to touch up the final result of the VOG paper. if you use glue, tape, and other adulterants, you can certainly make the kami version more presentable too. that's the whole point you "VOG paper ROX" folks seem to be missing--if you are willing to use extra touches to give the final model an extra nice appearance, why should you spend the extra money on VOG paper? take a look through shuki kato's flickr account. a lot of his models are done with tracing paper and he just paints them at the end.

Good point... Still I like the texture of VOG and the way it acts. Im noy saying I hate kami. Its just that Im discovering new things in origami. Hey I just started at the end of last year so I pretty much dont know how the other types of paper behave. So ya. I dont really have much access to origami paper here so I just buy from origami shop.com and try to dicover the diffrent types of paper.. You cant blame me for just starting right. Anyway Ill keep your point in my mind and try it out one day... As soon as I get kami...

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: April 22nd, 2012, 3:10 am
by blubaibi33
Hmm I used a 14X14 inch Tracing paper.. Bristol and the model comes out nice and tight! :twisted: but you will loosed most of the details since the paper is kinda smallish...

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: May 1st, 2012, 3:21 am
by edk2115
What size paper would be recommended for folding this for the first time.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: May 2nd, 2012, 6:15 pm
by Raptorex55
Around 40-60 cm. One can buy a 19x24" pad of Strathmore tracing paper at most local craft stores. A square cut from that will do quite well.

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: May 2nd, 2012, 8:20 pm
by mummykicks
Raptorex55 wrote:Around 40-60 cm. One can buy a 19x24" pad of Strathmore tracing paper at most local craft stores. A square cut from that will do quite well.

You can buy a roll of 36" wide 8lb tracing paper as well online.

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PostPosted: May 21st, 2012, 2:14 am
by youdougit
JMcK wrote:I haven't folded this model yet, but the following photo might show the right way to collapse the folds in steps 83 to 86:
Link
I could be wrong.

on step 83 do you collapse both layers on the top or just one?

Re: Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

PostPosted: May 21st, 2012, 4:17 pm
by Bass
Both I believe. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to open sink anything in the next steps.