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Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: January 12th, 2011, 8:39 pm
by Pop pop
hi everyone i have found the cp to Mr. Joisel mermaid here the website http://www.94ceo.com/bbs/redirect.php?t ... o=lastpost can anyone could help me collaspe the scale of his mermaid please thank you and here the cp of out of geomtry
http://musingsusingsandloosethings.blog ... igami.html

Posted: January 22nd, 2011, 2:01 am
by JumPurge
From what I over hear, the scales in the middle are folded last, with the flaps on either side being folded back and make the tail.
As for the ratio, I have found that it's 44x78.
How to get this size, I don't know. What I do know is that horizontally it's 6x10, but when the last edge is divided into 8ths, take off two.

Posted: January 22nd, 2011, 2:20 am
by Pop pop
thank you i got it

Posted: February 4th, 2011, 10:43 am
by Origami middle east!
Thanks for the cp!
My first try at the mermaid
http://mypingu.com/jadd/wp-content/uplo ... 040856.jpg

Posted: February 5th, 2011, 2:12 am
by Pop pop
your welcome and nice fold

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: March 30th, 2011, 3:30 am
by Pop pop
ok i have a problem how should i fold the face if its a woman not a man ](*,) ](*,)

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 24th, 2011, 7:44 pm
by hobbestheprince
I have a question as well. For the mermaid, considering she has a dwarf hat, is that used to model the hair? If so, are there any tips for modelling the hat into hair?

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 25th, 2011, 11:57 pm
by JumPurge
hobbestheprince wrote:I have a question as well. For the mermaid, considering she has a dwarf hat, is that used to model the hair? If so, are there any tips for modelling the hat into hair?
Basically... play around until you find it visually appealing. His models are simple, and made for sculpting into many shapes.
Three examples I know of:
Very wavy and puffy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/npottle/1883132127/
Straight and wet
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34652734@N04/4958670297/
In a bun
http://www.britishorigami.info/gallery/ ... folder=moo
There is no set way of making his mermaid.

The first two I know to undo the folds and sculpt/shape them to the desierd look, and what would be the front of the hat becomes the back of the hair. Or if you pleat, becomes the top of the hair.

For Pop Pop, it's actually very easy.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34652734@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/npottle/18 ... otostream/
You can see details of the face, and use them as a guide of which flaps become the eyes, nose, etc. if you want to give detail. Again, it does not come down to HOW, but more of an individual appeal. There's set diagrams for Satoshi Kamiyas Ancient Dragon. But there are none when it comes to many of Joisel's models.

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 26th, 2011, 5:58 pm
by hobbestheprince
But the dwarf hat is indeed meant for the hair right? I love the wavy and puffy style, and the wet hair as well.

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 26th, 2011, 6:08 pm
by JumPurge
hobbestheprince wrote:But the dwarf hat is indeed meant for the hair right? I love the wavy and puffy style, and the wet hair as well.
What was meant for the hat is indeed the hair.
I strongly recommend making your own style.
For example, I can see the hat staying, just modified to be like this:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5269 ... yblood.jpg
Keeping it flat.
Don't stick to what you see other people doing. :)

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 26th, 2011, 11:24 pm
by hobbestheprince
Well, I associate Mermaids having long hair, but I see your point. I wasn't sure what to do with the cap and how to give it a nice curly look to it. I figured there was a modelling technique.

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 26th, 2011, 11:35 pm
by JumPurge
I did a test bust of the head on a peice of paper 8.5x14 (divide by 16, rip off two).
It was just puffing it out, and crumpling it. Then fiddling around with it :P

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 27th, 2011, 9:47 pm
by hobbestheprince
Could you give me more detail on how you just focused on the head? I would like to focus on making details until I tackle the whole model.

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 27th, 2011, 10:11 pm
by JumPurge
I simply took a large sheet and made the base of what the head was. Basically, cropping the crease pattern and making it larger. I used a pretty large sheet to make a mermaid that sits at about 7 inches, where only the face and hair less than an inch.
So with a 14 x 8.5 inch peice of paper divided by 16 and ripping off two, I re-created only the head and hair, making a pretty large bust. Almost two inches, compared to the full model, being pretty much larger than the whole torso of the mermaid.

http://www.ericjoisel.com/balrog.html#2
The only difference is shaping, and the top part being another square, and not space for the hair and/or dwarf hat.

Re: Eric Joisel mermaid (cp)

Posted: July 27th, 2011, 11:17 pm
by hobbestheprince
Well, for practice I was going to use regular copy paper. I would still divide that into 16ths though and rip off two rows, correct.

I'm going to keep practicing, so I don't waste good paper.