Which CP is easier to fold / collapse

ginshun · Post by **ginshun** » April 5th, 2012, 7:02 pm

Water Dragon by Brian Chan or Ryujin 1.2 by Satoshi Kamiya?

I really like the look of the long skinny dragon in both of these models, but I am wondering which one I should try first. I honestly have a feeling that I am biting off more than I can chew with either, but you never know til you try right?

Thanks for any input.

Razzmatazz · Post by **Razzmatazz** » April 6th, 2012, 12:21 am

If I remember correctly, the water dragon has an easier head, but harder body. The head for Ryu Jin 1.2 was fiddly for me and I couldn't do it. But the rest was easier.

Post by **Baltorigamist** » April 6th, 2012, 12:55 am

If you don't let the asymmetry screw you up, the Water Dragon.

ginshun · Post by **ginshun** » April 6th, 2012, 2:37 am

Maybe Brian Chan's Newt first - seams easier and similar...

cowburger13 · Post by **cowburger13** » August 1st, 2012, 12:41 pm

What is the grid for the water dragon?

Froy · Post by **Froy** » August 1st, 2012, 3:23 pm

Water dragon being 2 stretched bird bases whit 2 grafts, it easier to understand and find a folding sequence. Kamiya's models tends to be a little more complex in their structure.

Water dragons is easier because the base is made of already known bases.

cowburger13 · Post by **cowburger13** » September 5th, 2012, 2:12 pm

But Kamiya's is slightly easier, because it lies on a grid.

yevgen · Post by **yevgen** » September 5th, 2012, 4:43 pm

I disagree, the fact that it is 2 bird bases makes it faster to precrease and the structure becomes more apparent in designs like brian's water dragon when it is not based on a grid. also it is easier to collapse as generally it will have more of a folding sequence than models that are based on a grid!

cowburger13 · Post by **cowburger13** » September 5th, 2012, 10:07 pm

Models based on a grid have a folding sequence, it's just harder to find.

yevgen · Post by **yevgen** » September 5th, 2012, 11:03 pm

some - yes, but not all take for example andrey ermakov's mantis shrimp. it is diagramed as a guided collapse rather than diagrams so there is no real folding sequence also the ryujin is pretty chaotic even though there is a basic order in which you must fold (belly pleats then legs then transition units then scales and so on)

Swapnil Das · Post by **Swapnil Das** » August 5th, 2013, 1:29 pm

cowburger13 wrote:What is the grid for the water dragon?

It's 32.

How'd I Find Out??? Well, I used Inkscape And Used The Grid And Made The Horizontal Lines Lie Exactly on The Inkscape Grid And Voila!!!

Benlewisorigami · Post by **Benlewisorigami** » August 5th, 2013, 3:19 pm

Eh, but Justin, it wasn't designed on a grid. It's a basic base with sinks in certain areas to narrow them down... It's bird bases, and other bases like the fish base for instance that make up the base

Swapnil Das · Post by **Swapnil Das** » August 6th, 2013, 7:23 am

Here's My Fold! -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dipakcdas/9447077213/
ANd It's From A Perfect Grid Of 32.

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