Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix

nothincomin · Post by **nothincomin** » February 11th, 2008, 1:32 pm

Actually, I just used a large sheet of copy paper, and it is hidden well anyway! I have to learn how to fold with tissue foil next time!

klnothincomin · Post by **klnothincomin** » February 12th, 2008, 2:18 am

I just hide the paper in the tails too, it is easier to me. I just can't seem to perfect the Phoenix version 3.5 though.

colin31 · Post by **colin31** » February 12th, 2008, 2:30 am

kl nothing coming r u nothingcomin

klnothincomin · Post by **klnothincomin** » February 12th, 2008, 2:53 am

No, I am not Nothincomin, but I would like to change my username, know how?

klnothincomin · Post by **klnothincomin** » February 19th, 2008, 10:44 pm

Here is my photos of my very first attemp of folding Kamiya's Phoenix 3.5! You can find them here in my flicr account:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23692423@N ... 945414419/

chesslo · Post by **chesslo** » February 23rd, 2008, 2:26 am

wow, very nice

, can anyone tell me how to collaspe the phoenix's head cause i dont get the dirgami for the head in the book?

thanks

Post by **origami_8** » February 23rd, 2008, 1:37 pm

Chesslo, what is a "dirgami" and what book are you talking about?

klnothincomin · Post by **klnothincomin** » February 23rd, 2008, 4:22 pm

I didn't know there were diagrams for kamiya's phoenix, chesslo, where did you find the diagrams and what is the name of the book?

araknoid · Post by **araknoid** » February 23rd, 2008, 6:26 pm

could be one of those

quesoonfire · Post by **quesoonfire** » February 23rd, 2008, 9:35 pm

There is a diagram for pheonix 3.0 that is not made by Satoshi Kamiya. I do not know where to find it though.

klnothincomin · Post by **klnothincomin** » February 23rd, 2008, 10:24 pm

If it is not made by Kamiya, I don't think it is accurate, only the creator can diagram a model correctly if he made it.

chesslo · Post by **chesslo** » February 24th, 2008, 1:16 am

its accurate, a friend gave it to me

but i cant give it to anyone though

so you guys know how to collapse the head and the wing/
thanks

origamimasterjared · February 24th, 2008, 2:39 am

klnothincomin wrote:If it is not made by Kamiya, I don't think it is accurate, only the creator can diagram a model correctly if he made it.

Have you seen Komatsu's diagrams for Maekawa's Devil (Tanteidan 56)? Or Miyajima's for Yoshino's FA-18?

its accurate, a friend gave it to me

If it's the one I'm thinking of, no it's not. The steps at the beginning don't even give the correct reference points.

chesslo · Post by **chesslo** » February 24th, 2008, 6:39 am

umm, araknoid sent it to me so is it the accrate one?
if its not, no wonder i cant make the head and the wing so anyone know how?

thank

origamimasterjared · February 24th, 2008, 6:53 am

You're talking about 3.0, right?

Does it start by finding a 1/9 reference point? If so then it's incorrect. The proportions are supposed to be (2√2)-2:2:2:1+√2. 1/9 is relatively close, and is a decent approximation, but it's not accurate. Search this forum and I have diagrammed the proper reference point. The rest of the diagrams do a decent job at collapsing the CP as I recall. The wing part is for the most part trash though. Try to figure it out based on pictures by Artur Biernacki or klnothincomin. They got it pretty spot on. I think rdrutel's video does a very good job at uncovering the mechanics of the wing feathers. He got the tips right anyhow.

If you're talking about version 3.5, the diagram does an excellent job at solving the base, but once again fails in the finishing.