Satoshi Kamiya - Phoenix 3.5 (CP)

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Postby Jonnycakes » August 2nd, 2008, 4:14 am

Just a head's up-teaching is misspelled on the front page :oops:
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Postby takwing » August 2nd, 2008, 5:15 pm

good-catch!! :)
it has been fixed.
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Postby takwing » August 3rd, 2008, 4:38 pm

the cp in my web site has been updated to show the grid system.

This would help you to define the reference point.
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Postby ftangdude55 » August 10th, 2008, 2:55 am

Anyone going to post folded base pics? Or would it be better if i looked at some other SK Phoenix threads? (I was also going to ask if somebody was going to draw up a crease direction CP, but I think that none of us CP folders have too much trouble figuring out crease directions.)
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Postby Terranova » November 15th, 2008, 2:42 am

I just found something else wrong with it. I don't have access to Photoshop on this computer, so I'll have to do my best with describing:

In the sixteenth image, the crease landmark is incorrect: The fold goes up to 11/36, which divides it in half, making the crease at 5.5/36. It should go up to 1/36 below the crease, which is 10/36, which would make the correct crease at 5/36. Just so ya know :wink:
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Postby insaneorigami » December 20th, 2008, 9:38 pm

Wow, I just finished the pheonix 3.0 that origamimasterjared showed the solution for, which turned out okay. I'm definitely going to try this one next! While I dont particularly like folding Kamiya's phoenixs, I really like the outcome. Thanks for sharing :D
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Postby Zoraz » December 27th, 2008, 4:14 am

I have figured out the wings, chest, tail, and feet of the phoenix, but i cant seem to get the head to look right. Usually it ends up with only one beak flap, and only three feathers on the head. the other points just disappear. any tips?
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Postby insaneorigami » December 29th, 2008, 7:45 pm

Zoraz wrote:I have figured out the wings, chest, tail, and feet of the phoenix, but i cant seem to get the head to look right. Usually it ends up with only one beak flap, and only three feathers on the head. the other points just disappear. any tips?


are you sure that you followed the crease pattern correctly? I folded it and it looks pertty nice :D I'll try to post some pictures to help you with this. In the meantime, try refolding the CP, making sure that you have all of the refrence points right; I find that when I am stuck on a model, it helps to refold it.

Hope this helps :D
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Postby origami94 » December 31st, 2008, 3:22 am

Hey guys, I know this sounds really dumb, but I need to know what folds I need to make to make the base for the phoenix. I've printed many cps and I've creased them all! So now all I need to do is figure out the base. If anyone could tell me what folds to make first, or take a picture of the cp and highlight the lines that need to be folded, that would be great! Thanks in advance! :D :D :D
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Postby Daydreamer » December 31st, 2008, 3:26 am

Well... you need all the creases of the CP to make the base...
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Postby origami94 » December 31st, 2008, 3:28 am

What does that mean? could someone post pictures so I can understand please? That would help me tons!
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Postby Max » December 31st, 2008, 9:30 am

There is a sticky thread dealing with the phoenix.
Yes, you will have to read and search through some pages. There are photodiagrams showing you how to collapse the different parts.

In my opinion it would be better for you to try some easier cps before folding the phoenix.

btw, you are not done with the model after having collapsed all the creases... :wink:
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Postby angrydemon » December 31st, 2008, 6:44 pm

Also, don't expect to just "print" out the cp and fold it. You're going to need a sheet of paper at least 70 by 70cm in size. Really thin paper. Good luck fitting a printer that big through your door.

There are already billions of photodiagrams in the forum. And those are for the tricky parts. If you can't even finish the easy parts yourself I think you're going to need A LOT more practice.
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Postby HankSimon » December 31st, 2008, 7:41 pm

Go back to the very first posting in this thread by Kevin Luo. He did a very good job of showing the steps for this CP. Don't be overly concerned about mountain vs. Valley folds, as long as you try to alternate.

Then go back and look at the other photodiagram postings to compare what you did. Figure out the closest solution to what you achieved, and take a picture of your result. Make sure that you have clear photos with good contrast. Take a photo of at least front and back and post it.

Try to guestimate where you are having problems specifically. However, remember that a diagram goes step by step, but a CP goes through more complex collapses and shaping, rather than discrete Steps.

Someone may be able to give specific guidance on some of the pre-creasing and collapsing to help you progress from your photo. They will probably point to specific photodiagrams on the Forum...

Collapsing CPs is not for the faint of heart...

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Postby insaneorigami » December 31st, 2008, 10:00 pm

origami94 wrote:What does that mean? could someone post pictures so I can understand please? That would help me tons!


When he said that you need to make all of the creases, he meant that every single crease that you see in the picture should end up on the sheet that you are going to fold. As long as you have all of the creases down, you should be fine. If you make a mistake in the mountains and valleys, always have an extra sheet of paper handy so that oyu can re-pre-crease the paper, only correcting the areas that were wrong.

Hope this helps :D
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