Satoshi Kamiya - Ancient Dragon

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Postby thut » March 5th, 2006, 2:20 am

my first and second attemps at this model both ripped :(

Does anyone know what kind of paper this is http://www.folders.jp/g/2002/ancdragon.html
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Postby Aznman » March 5th, 2006, 3:52 am

As it says in the foreword of the book, "Michael LaFosse of the Origamido Studio, who made the sheets from which I folded many models in this book." So the dragon was probably made with homemade paper.
Here is a link to their site http://store.origamido.com/handmadepaper.html
If you want to spenp 1200$ for 75 or so sheets...... Or for a more economic approach,

I would suggest using a big piece of tissue foil. I made it out of 11 inch Tissue with some difficulty. Then I used a piece of 19 inch (you have to glue two sheets of foil together) and it was somwhat "easy" you can see both results in the "what have you folded lately" thread.

What kind of paper have you been using? and on what step does your paper rip?

Always be gentle with the paper, and sometimes the rips will be on the inside of the model so you can keep on folding.

Hope that helps a little.
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Postby origami_8 » March 12th, 2006, 2:27 pm

I quote someone from another topic:
helliluya wrote:Hi , i need a little help with Satoshi Kamiya 's Ancient dragon step 59 to 60 . in the book , step 59 it shows a series of mountain and vally folds , but when I did it as what it shown ( at least what I thought )

here is my step 59 finished:[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdegghsu/111303643/]Image
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Middle layer of step 59 ( I was wondering if I even misunderstood the whole 5x steps): [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdegghsu/111303644/]Image
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This is what I got after step 60: [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdegghsu/111303646/]Image
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Step 60 look from back : [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdegghsu/111303647/]Image
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Step 60 look from back 2 : [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdegghsu/111303648/]Image
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I know I am wrong because I couldn't continue after step 60, but just dont know where went wrong !

If anything is kindly enought to give me some few tips ??? Thank you very much !!!
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Postby origami_8 » March 12th, 2006, 4:01 pm

As far as I can remember this should be an open sink and no inside reverse fold:
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Postby kaerusan » March 12th, 2006, 10:08 pm

origami 8 is right,in step 59 you have to do exactly the same procedures you've done before on steps 51 to 57...
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Postby EuanBingham » March 13th, 2006, 1:35 am

Just on a larger scale.

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Postby helliluya » March 14th, 2006, 12:39 am

Hi , I tried to open sink the area like this :
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, but stuck on the middle layer here:
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Is there something wrong with my middle layer ?? Thank you very much !
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Postby EuanBingham » March 14th, 2006, 11:26 am

Read the instructions; you have to use the same folding method you used to fold the pleats in steps 51 to 57.

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Postby helliluya » March 14th, 2006, 5:15 pm

I was soooo stupid !!!

Thank you guys !!! Finally I made throught step 60 ( No wonder no one stuck on this step cause it really is easy , but somehow I just didnt see that before :)
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Postby thut » March 22nd, 2006, 11:10 am

Does the small, wide flap formed in step 46 get trapped at step 51.
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Postby Daydreamer » March 22nd, 2006, 1:14 pm

If I understood your question correctly, then yes.
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Postby Friet » March 22nd, 2006, 2:20 pm

You can also turn the flap into belly pleats by using Phil's instructions.

(he posted them earlier in this thread)
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Postby helliluya » April 1st, 2006, 12:08 pm

Hi , I ve looked up Friet's 6 instruction about step 83~85 but still I stuck here :(

Here is the beginning of step 83:
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Trying to fold a bird base like Friet's:
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Here is the part which I stuck at ( the circled part wont be flat like step 84 on the book):
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So I'll have to PULL OUT the circled part :
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But after pulled out , when I tried to fold the crease line like step 84 instructed , I found out there are so many layers that it would be separated, hence having trouble open sink it:
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Here is my inner layer of step 84:
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Am I doing the right job ??? Thank you very much.
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Postby helliluya » April 3rd, 2006, 3:23 pm

Finally figured it out :P my step 52~57 was wrong so result in that problem to my step 83 .
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Postby helliluya » April 6th, 2006, 12:59 am

I took some photos of the steps when folding the Ancient Dragon , hope it will be helpful with anyone who needs it :)

step 50 front view
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step 50 front view (middle layer)
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step 59 in progress front view
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step 59 in progress top view
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step 59 in progress front middle layer view
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step 59 in progress front middle layer view
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step 59 in progress side view
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step 59 in progress side view
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step 60 front view
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step 60 middle layer view
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step 60 side view
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step 61 front view
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step 61 in progress
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step 77 front view
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step 77 middle layer view
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step 77 side view
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step 77 side view enlarge
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step 82
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step 83 front view
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step 83 in progress
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step 84 front view
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step 84 side view
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