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Most complex origami

Posted: January 16th, 2016, 10:48 pm
by Merlyngami
Just out of curiosity, what is the (or one of the) most complex or detailed origami you have ever seen/folded?
I look forward to seeing some answers :D

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 16th, 2016, 10:59 pm
by Augustus Agamemnon
The most complex origami that I've folded was probably the attack of the kraken by Brian Chan. I needed to use a really big paper.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 16th, 2016, 11:20 pm
by Merlyngami
I've nearly folded attack of the kraken, but the paper I was using ended up being too weak :(

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 17th, 2016, 8:54 pm
by Augustus Agamemnon
I encourage you to try it again with a thicker paper, because it is a very cool model!

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 17th, 2016, 9:08 pm
by Merlyngami
Yes, i definitely will when i get the chance.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 18th, 2016, 5:17 am
by Gerardo
I don't know how is it called but it was two oriental dragons entwining, one gold and the other one silver, with a yin-yang symbol resting between them at the bottom. It was created and folded by the colombian Richi UsaquƩn with a single sheet.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 19th, 2016, 8:19 pm
by Augustus Agamemnon
Do you have a picture of it?

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 20th, 2016, 2:33 am
by Gerardo
Sorry, I don't. I'll ask him for one but actually he hasn't replied any of my messages.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 20th, 2016, 3:39 am
by bobzomgville
https://www.facebook.com/TadashiOrigami ... 980879058/
here you go. I don't think its that complex though. Its probably just a really long rectangle. I think the hardest part would probably be the head and the yin and yang. It is very nice looking though and its definitely a clever idea. The color change could easily be done from a rectangle by folding a diagonal in the middle of the rectangle (if it is a rectangle).
If it is just a 1x3 rectangle of two Ryujins, I still can't see it being that complex as its got no leg scales or the 3.5 head (so it must be a modified 2.1) . Ryujin 2.1 is actually really easy. Its just transitions, scales, and a head. Two of them from the same sheet doesn't sound that hard.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 20th, 2016, 7:56 am
by bethnor
this is actually a very futile question. someone will always make something bigger and more complex. technically, you could always graft stuff on ad infinitum.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 20th, 2016, 5:27 pm
by Froy
Complex in structure or complex in folding process? or both at the same time?

I mean, take the Ryujin 3.5, the structure is not that complex but the folding process is quite a challenge.

For non BP models, I got to say Shuki Kato have developed very very interesting structures for his late models.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 20th, 2016, 6:45 pm
by Gerardo
bobzomgville, thanks for sharing the picture and the name, and also for explaining it to me. I had assumed it was very complex :).

bethnor, I'd say it would be futile if we expected to find an absolute answer for once and for all. If we aren't, I'd say this can be pretty enlightening. But that's just my point of view; I din't even start this thread ;).

Froy, there are two types of origami complexity?! If you don't mind, and if Merlyngami is OK with it, would you explain a little more about structural complexity? I'd love learn more about it :D.

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 21st, 2016, 7:11 am
by Merlyngami
Bethnor, Gerardo is right, I'm not looking for the most complex origami ever or anything, although I suppose the title is a bit misleading :? .
Froy, I'm just talking about complex origami, not necessarily in any fixed way. :)

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 21st, 2016, 7:14 am
by Merlyngami
Gerardo wrote: if Merlyngami is OK with it, would you explain a little more about structural complexity? I'd love learn more about it :D.
Yes, of course its fine. :)

Re: Most complex origami

Posted: January 22nd, 2016, 2:07 am
by marckrsh
I would think "structural complexity" refers to the general layout of appendages. Interestingly, really complex models tend to have simpler linear structures, while very simple models have the freedom to have unusual allocation of flaps (any additional paper thickness from a "weird" structure would not hurt the foldability). Of course some models are complex with appendages and structure. Kamiya's eastern dragon has a very clever (non-symmetrical) allocation of appendages (in spite of the symmetrical looking end result). With all of the scales and flaps, it is certainly complex in every sense of the word. - Marc