Hojyo Takashi

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » December 28th, 2006, 5:34 am

Is he ever going to publish a book that has all his work? All his work seems to be in CP only and not really available. I think it would be awesome if he published a book with origami house. His work is amazing. http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~origami/index.htm

tee · Post by **tee** » December 28th, 2006, 8:46 am

anyone can read japanese? I think there's some notes about his book on the last page(cover) of tanteidan magazine.

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » January 7th, 2007, 4:39 pm

so is it confirmed that he is coming out with a book?

tee · Post by **tee** » January 8th, 2007, 1:39 am

i hope so, i like his model....specially the humuan figure,very spiritual

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Post by **Daydreamer** » January 8th, 2007, 9:00 am

There's been rumours about Origami Insects III containing models by Hojyo Takashi, but these rumours have been around for quite a while already and unfortunately nothing about his human models.

http://www.origamihouse.jp/tenji/hojyo/miyama.html

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » January 8th, 2007, 3:42 pm

that's too bad. I don't care about his insect models. I was hoping he would publish a book with all his human figures.

There are only cps for his human figures and cps are something that i hate because there is no way i can fold from them.

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » January 14th, 2007, 7:38 pm

i don't get what's with this guy. He only releases crease patterns for all his models. Even in the tanteidan convention book 10, there is only a cp for the thundergod.

Maybe he is just a lazy person. I hate lazy authors. Diagrams are so much better

Post by **Daydreamer** » January 14th, 2007, 7:43 pm

Let's see when you release diagrams for models which most likely need 200 or more steps... you probably won't even bother to draw diagrams for a model with like 20 steps so don't complain about others. And maybe you are the lazy person because you don't want to try and fold the CP....

Also, there are many diagrams for models by Hojyo Takashi (Icarus, Maitreya, Violinist,...) even though it's hard to get them.

Post by **origami_8** » January 14th, 2007, 9:50 pm

kingdomwinds wrote:I hate lazy authors. Diagrams are so much better

ItÂ´s obvious, that you donÂ´t have a clue what you are talking about. You should be glad that he is trying to share his fantastic designs with us and doesnÂ´t keep them for himself. ItÂ´s very hard work to draw diagrams and itÂ´s even hard to draw a crease pattern.
And to tell the truth, whatÂ´s his benefit from drawing diagrams, so that others can copy his work? Most people wonÂ´t even say "thank you". No, itÂ´s worse, there are people like you who go ahead and call him lazy and say that they hate him. You should really be more carefull with what you say.
So for now, create some great models, draw diagrams for them and publish them somewhere, then we can talk again.

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » January 14th, 2007, 10:31 pm

uh he would sell alot more if he released diagrams. People who cannot fold from cp would buy books or mags with his works in them. So if he published a book with actual diagrams and not cps, imagine how much money he would make. People would buy his books. So he has so much to gain by making diagrams.

I for one am not willing to do trial and error to fold from a cp. Also, i like to fold, not create. I feel like he is alienating alot of people from folding his works by only releasing cps. There are many ppl who find it impossible to fold from cp. I am one of them.

theorigamist · Post by **theorigamist** » January 14th, 2007, 10:39 pm

kingdomwinds wrote:I for one am not willing to do trial and error to fold from a cp.

So you're calling the author lazy because he won't take the hundreds of hours to diagram all of his models, but you're unwilling to spend a little time learning to fold CPs?

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » January 14th, 2007, 10:46 pm

he has alot to gain by making diagrams. I have nothing to gain by attempting to fold from a cp. Chances are, i will not even be able to collapse the basic base from a cp.

Maybe if there was an online tutorial that takes a complex model and shows how its done, it would be possible to fold from cps.

origamimasterjared · January 14th, 2007, 10:57 pm

And when he does draw diagrams he is so not lazy with them. He diagrams every single sink separately, where others would just say, "sink eight times".

Also, I believe he has been working on Origami Insects 3. Now, while his specialty seems to be humans, this is quite an undertaking and is sure to be taking up a lot of his time.

Also, you should feel happy he even releases anything at all. While crease patterns take about 1/30th of the time to draw as diagrams, the creator is still not being paid during that time. Sale of a book like Tanteidan 12 does not provide the creator with a single penny, just a copy of a book, and exposure. And after 10+ years, exposure is probably the least of Hojyo's worries. With his own book, he stands to make a bit of money. But again not that much, as the population purchasing the book probably [I'm guessing] doesn't exceed 1000.

Also, do you not realize that diagrams are HARD to draw?? It takes a while to develop the skills needed to draw good diagrams. I have a collection of models on my computer, all CPd, with a few sets of diagrams started. I can draw a CP in an hour or two, but diagrams to get me that far would take me weeks.

So next time you create something really good and really complex, draw out 20 pages of diagrams, and then you can complain about lazy diagrammers (Icarus-272, Fighting beetles-190, etc.)

I remember years back there was a rumor about him having over 300 steps on Shibaraku. I also remember meeting him at PCOC '03; he was cool.

I really wish Shibaraku was diagrammed. I folded the CP once before, but my paper was too small (as is often the case when folding CPs) and I couldn't get much past that base.

Post by **origami_8** » January 14th, 2007, 11:09 pm

To kingdomwinds:

How many people do fold complex models, what do you think?
You canÂ´t make much money by writing an Origami Book. If you really do it, itÂ´s all for yourself because you wonÂ´t ever receive that much as you have invested. Drawing diagrams with a few hundred steps lasts days and more, there are 3-D steps that are nearly impossible to draw.

You donÂ´t want to create, you donÂ´t want to fold from a cp? You are too lazy to give anything yourself, but you want others to do the work for you. Sure itÂ´s easier, no doubt.

You ask what youÂ´re benefits are if you try to fold from cp and go through trial and error like we all did before? I can tell you. You get experience, you learn to understand the inner structure of Origami models, you learn how to manipulate a piece of paper that way that it forms like you want it to.
There are Crease Pattern tutorials out there, just run a search on this Forum and you will find lots of informations about it. But no one can implant you this knowledge, you have to try it yourself, thatÂ´s the only way. And donÂ´t blaspheme about others who has gone further than you ever will with this attitude in your mind.

Brimstone · Post by **Brimstone** » January 14th, 2007, 11:16 pm

kingdomwinds wrote:i don't get what's with this guy. He only releases crease patterns for all his models. Even in the tanteidan convention book 10, there is only a cp for the thundergod.

Maybe he is just a lazy person. I hate lazy authors. Diagrams are so much better

Blasphemy. You are going to hell infidel